Waking from sleep when turning on desk light! Do I have ghosts?

Ok, for me, this is a very strange one. Hopefully to one of you people it will be a well known problem, and one I can fix with your advice. Here goes....

My iMac has always had a little issue in regards to waking itself from sleep whenever I turn on/off my flourescent desk lamp. I thought it's because it was on the same multi-socket exension lead, so I moved the lamp to it's own socket. The problem persisted. I thought it could be an electrical surge issue, so I bought a surge protection extension socket and put my iMac on it. The problem persisted.

More recently I've noticed that the floor lamp on the other side of the room (on a completely seperate wall socket) will also wake my iMac from sleep when it is turned on/off. I don't know if this is relevant, but it uses a power-saving bulb.

The computer also wakes sporadically sometimes. We'll be sat watching TV, and it'll suddenly come to life for no apparent reason.

The weirdest thing was last night - my girlfriend picked up her Macbook, and connected the power cable to the magnet at the side. My iMac immediately came to life. Weird thing is that the Macbook power cable wasn't actually yet plugged into the wall, so how the **** that happened, I haven't a clue!

I've heard of radio frequencies (from walkie talkies etc) causing sleep/shudown issues, but I haven't a clue about lights causing the iMac to wake from sleep. Can anyone help?

The only thing that has changed on my iMac is that I now have a wireless mighty mouse, and a wired new apple keyboard. Surely it can;'t be a bluetooth issue? But, I hasted to add, the "light on/off causing the iMac to wake from sleep" issue has been ongoing pretty much since I bought the machine. It's just that it seems to have got worse, and more and more things are causing the waking problem.

Here's hoping you can offer some pointers!

Many thanks.

Jme

iMac G5, 2.0Ghz, 20", Mac OS X (10.4.11), Wireless Mighty Mouse, Wired Keyboard (new aluminium style)

Posted on Sep 26, 2008 3:04 AM

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Sep 26, 2008 5:06 AM in response to Jamie Martin

Hi frankiej60-

Greetings and welcome to the Apple Discussion boards User uploaded file


Have you checked the outlets in the house with an outlet checker? They are cheap devices that have LEDs and when you plug them in the lights indicate proper grounding and hot/neutral wiring. If a problem is indicated it is best to have an electrician take a look ASAP.

If everything is fine with the wiring then we have more thinking to do.

This sounds like you may have a poor neutral-ground bond and if you do it can be very dangerous to use any electrical device.

Luck-

-DP

Sep 26, 2008 6:10 AM in response to DaddyPaycheck

Hi DaddyPaycheck, and thanks.

I will be having an electrician in hopefully in the next week (for a different issue), so presumably they can check this at the same time. I originally thought it was an electrical issue, but am starting to think otherwise, as the computer wakes up when nothing seems to be happening electrically. Addiitonally, it woke when my girlfriend simply plugged her power cable into her MacBook when it wasnt connected to any electrical source, and she was 5 metres away on the other side of the room. Maybe something wi-fi related? But how would flourescent lights affect this?

Very odd.

Jme

Sep 26, 2008 6:36 AM in response to Klaus1

Don Archibald has suggested this:

The venerable G4 Cube used to exhibit similar ghostly behavior. It had a non-mechanical power button (electrostatic sensing, as I recall) which was too sensitive - it would respond to flourescent lights and other devices being turned on or off. I wonder if the G5 iMac in question may use a similar circuit.

Another possibility - the OP is using a wireless mouse. Could its receiver be too sensitive, responding to random EMF output from light circuits, TVs, etc.?

Sep 26, 2008 7:34 AM in response to Jamie Martin

Hi frankie:

FWIW, I have had a similar problem with my G5 (Bluetooth equipped mouse and KB) waking for no obvious reason. The log shows a USB wake event -20, which someone who knows more than I indicated a mouse.

I have unplugged all USB devices (even if they are turned off) and it still randomly happens.

I have a surge protector as well.

I have decided that the mouse is deciding to eat cheese or something and wakes the iMac. The iMac goes back to sleep when scheduled.

I have not (at least recently) noticed any similar behavior on my Intel-based iMac, but since it has no power/sleep light, it would not be as noticeable.

I have stopped trying to chase the problem and just ignore it.

Barry

Sep 26, 2008 6:29 PM in response to Jamie Martin

In the "Advanced" setting in the "Bluetooth" system preference, you can disable waking by Bluetooth. If that fixes it, then it is a mouse problem. Maybe the mouse battery is low, and it is sending a low battery signal to the computer. Just moving the mouse shouldn't wake the computer, since the mouse LED should be off when the computer is sleeping, so the mouse cannot detect movement.

Sep 27, 2008 5:22 PM in response to Jamie Martin

dwb has suggested this:

I recall a conversation similar to this one last winter or spring with a UK user. We'd almost settled that the issue was the wiring in his old flat when he mentioned in passing that it was odd the problem seemed to have started out the same time he bought a wireless keyboard and mouse. I'd never heard of bluetooth waking a computer because of turning on the lights but it just seemed to be too much of a coincidence so I suggested he hook up his old USB keyboard and mouse. No more wakey wakey turning on the bedroom lights and a replacement wireless set was the answer.

Nov 21, 2008 12:24 PM in response to DaddyPaycheck

Hi Daddypaycheck.

To answer your question - yes and no. Initially the iMac and desk light were on the same extension block, but I separated them, and the problem persisted (when the USB hub was still attached). But, oddly, a floor standing lamp on the other side of the room, on a completely different electrical outlet also caused the "waking from sleep" issue when the light was turned on/off (and it didn't have a flourescent light, but was using an IKEA energy saving bulb). So it was either something to do with the actual lights radiating something (I assume very unlikely) or something to do with the lights causing a small peak in my apartments electrics, and the USB hub was picking this up and sending some signal to the iMac causing it to wake.

Either way, it is all very strange and spooky! 🙂

Jme

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