using 10.0.1.1 vs 192.168.1.1 addressing

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using 10.0.1.1 vs 192.168.1.1 addressing

I was just curious; on the airport admin utility it lets me choose between using 10.0.1.1 addressing and 192.168.1.1 addressing under the network tab... What's the difference?

I use an airport extreme as a router. I was connecting my xbox 360 via the airport with no problems at all; then tonight it stopped working out of nowhere. It says its a problem with the MTU settings but I havent changed anything; and my MTU settings are default for 1500 (above the required amount for xbox live). My xbox live /airport settings are set to automatic; using the 10.0.1.1 addressing. Ive seen other users however talk about using 192.168.1.1 for their connections and was just curious if it might screw something up if I switched my settings to 192.168.1.1.

Mac Mini PPC, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Sep 29, 2008 8:14 PM

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Answer 1

Sep 29, 2008 9:43 PM in response to Clshannon1

This is so odd. I have the exact same problem, i've had my apple extreme set up to my xbox wireless and tonight I got the same error you're getting. wow, there is something going on. anyone have any advice?

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Sep 29, 2008 9:56 PM in response to My 1st Mac

Xbox Live has been down most of today so Microsoft can perform upgrades and maintenance. I believe a system update will be out tomorrow which will introduce new Xbox Live features.

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Clshannon1 Author

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Sep 29, 2008 10:11 PM in response to aliasnexus0

oh.... I feel like a ******* now. Yeah for the past oh I dunno almost 2 years ive had my xbox live running absolutely problem free using all automatic settings through my apple network; i just tried today and It didnt work so I was freaking out... Now this makes sense. I'll check back tomorow or the following. Thanks for the heads up; I've been pulling my hair out configuring diff settings of stuff.

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Duane

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Sep 30, 2008 6:53 PM in response to Clshannon1

I was just curious; on the airport admin utility it lets me choose between using 10.0.1.1 addressing and 192.168.1.1 addressing under the network tab... What's the difference?

One starts addresses with 10.0 while the other starts addresses with 192.168. Other than that there is no difference. The operation is exactly the same.

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Answer 5

Oct 1, 2008 12:10 AM in response to Clshannon1

Most consumer routers use 192.168 as the default address range. Apple use 10.0 as the default. I suppose it's a PC/Mac thing, but it makes no difference. Obviously, you should keep to the same address range across your network.

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Answer 6

Oct 1, 2008 10:03 AM in response to Clshannon1

"10.0.1.1 addressing and 192.168.1.1 "

There's a difference and this option solves a specific problem. If you are connecting the TM or extreme to an ajacent router, you need to understand the ip addressing of the adjacent router before finalizing the config on the TM or extreme. For example, if the existing router uses an address of 192.168.1.1, fo proper routing functionality, you should set your TC or extreme to 10.0.1.1 (the default). If you don't make the change, devices in the first network will not be able to see devices in the second network because the second networks default gateway is within the subnet of the first network and the mask of 255.255.255.0 prevents broadcasts from spanning 2 networks.

bridge mode avoids the issues if you can get by with using upstream DHCP and DNS settings.

you could also change you mask to 255.255.0.0 if you really don't want to have to sperate subnets.

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Duane

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Oct 3, 2008 8:47 AM in response to speakerfritz

you could also change you mask to 255.255.0.0 if you really don't want to have to sperate subnets.

Not really sure how that would change the situation.

When you use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 it means that devices are on the same subnet if the first 3 numbers of the IP address match.

When you use a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 it means that devices are on the same subnet if the first 2 numbers of the IP address match.

So changing the subnet mask like that doesn't eliminate the possibility of subnets.

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