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OSX does not start

Heys guys
So a few minutes ago I started my mac and it would go up to the blue screen that shows up just before the account selector screen comes and then gets stuck there. I can hear teh hard disk make a clicking sound like its trying real hard to access something.

My 10.5 disc is not with me right now but I loaded my 10.4 disc and tried to verify permission using disc utility. It said error: no valid packages. I did a disc repair and and it says the disc is fine.

I googled the error and Apple's solution is reinstall OSX or copy a file that is missing into a specific folder. My problem is I do not want to reinstall OSX as I had to do that a month ago when the laptop would not even load up past the grey screen with the small looping gear. And I cannot find that specific file and copy it as I cannot access the system.

Please help!!

Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Oct 10, 2008 9:43 PM

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Oct 10, 2008 10:02 PM in response to mackdhadhee

Much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news, I am worried by the fact that your hard disk is making a "clicking sound". In my experience this could be a sign that all is not well with your hard disk and warrants a check to see if it is Ok. The fact that you had another problem a month ago lends credence to this theory.

I sincerely hope I am wrong.

Zlig

Oct 11, 2008 7:38 PM in response to mackdhadhee

Sounds like a possible drive problem but,
10.4 disk utility cannot repair 10.5 permission problems, usually it will just hose the permission
structure without warning, maybe later versions of 10.4 recognize Leo and refuse to run.
10.4 can repair 10.5 disks, just not permissions, as the file system structures are the same.

Disk Utility cannot repair many file system directory problems though, a good third party utility
like Disk Warrior can. Apple's cure for directory problems is to reinstall.

You can try resetting your root directory permissions:

If the disk in question is your Mac OS X startup disk and your computer stops starting up at the blue screen, restart with the Command and S keys held down, and enter the following commands:
(one at a time - pressing return after each one)

mount -uw /
chown root:admin /
chmod 1775 /
reboot

Kj

Oct 11, 2008 7:58 PM in response to KJK555

@ samsara, Thank you

@KJK555
It does stop booting up at the blue screen. It switches between two shades of blue like its trying to do something and sometimes a loading gear shows up in bottom of the screen and then goes away. I entered the commands you told me to but it didn't work.

The only option for me now is to take out my HDD and swap my old one in with Tiger on it so i could boot up and copy my important documents from the Leopard disc using an external HDD case. I have done this before so its not a big deal but I would hate losing all my settings.

Once again thank you guys for helping me out.

Oct 11, 2008 8:54 PM in response to mackdhadhee

Usually you can eject the disk by holding down the mouse button while starting up until it does. If not, with the mac shut down, there's a small hole, hard to see, right under where you put the disc in. Using a straightened out paperclip push in that hole until the tray moves forward, then grab it and pull it out the rest of the way.
DiskWarrior is an expensive program but a good investment. Good luck, my Canadian friend 🙂

Oct 11, 2008 10:37 PM in response to mackdhadhee

Here is another thing to try:

Please boot into the single user operating mode. You can do this by holding CMD+s. Once the system is booted into single user mode and is standing by at the Localhost% command prompt type the following:

mount -uw /
(press return)
at the command prompt type:

mv /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist preferences.old

(press return)
again at the command prompt type:

mv /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist preferences2.old
(press return)

again at the command prompt type:

mv /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist preferences3.old
(press return)

again at the command prompt type:

mv /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/ApplicationEnhancer.bundle bundle.old
(press return)

again and lastly at the command prompt type:
reboot
(press return)

Hope this helps!

Kj
Note: if this doesn't do it, something is hosed (files and/or directory) and/or your hard drive is
failing to read the boot files.

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