Hotkeys for subscript & superscript

They've gone from being mediocre QXP users to half baked InDesign users.

This is certainly not matching Bran Milic profile 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mardi 14 octobre 2008 12:10:26)

Link please?

Where is the link between your message and the keyboard shortcuts ?

Well, if the important point is superscripting and subscripting, then perhaps the technological issues in superscripting and subscripting should be included - no?

Normally, in technical writing one begins with the beginning, "This is the technology, and within the technology this is the task, so you have these ways of working out the task".

/hh

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
Link please?

Search for Bran Milic in Google 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 15 octobre 2008 11:26:56)

I have, no hits.

The problem is not the use of superscript and subscript, it's which are the shortcuts giving access to these features.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 15 octobre 2008 14:13:12)

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
I have, no hits.

Amazing!



Here is a link to its own site:
http://www.milic.com/indesign/

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 15 octobre 2008 14:27:19)

Sarah Palin can see Russia from her window!

Where is "Sarah Palin", isn't she in jail ?
Google returns only 23 800 000 entries for this keyword.

what is 'Russia', isn't it invaded by Georgia ?
Google returns only 246 000 000 entries for this keyword.

Pope, how many divisions ?

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 15 octobre 2008 16:39:30)

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

On a French keyboard, this requires apple - option - 1 on the numeric keypad but apple - option - shift - 1 on the main keyboard because on this main keyboard digits require the shift key.

Oh, man, is there any way you can attach a picture of a typical French keyboard? (And while we are on the subject, a typical German keyboard?)

This is really starting to intrigue me.

(And not just because I /still/ think a German keyboard ought to have certain extra keys with umlauts on them!)

I /still/ think a German keyboard ought to have certain extra keys with umlauts on them!

I think that a US keyboard and UK keyboard should have separate keys for stroke of i and the dot above, and for the stroke of j and the dot above.

Anglo-American users are accustomed to a writing system that does not define 'dotting' as part and parcel of the letterform.

German is rich in vowels, as are other Germanic languages including Danish, Icelandic, Færoese, Norwegian and Swedish. The 'dotting' is there because the 'dotted letters' are not letters plus dots, but letters in their own right. Input methods should not be monolingual with modifications for multilinguals. Rather, input methods should be multilingual from the ground up so multilinguals do not have to struggle. The EU is officially multilingual, the US is unofficially monolingual (i.e. there is no official language at Federal level in the US while in the EU there are official writing systems and private citizens as much as Members of the European Parliament are entitled, and encouraged, to use their official writing systems and official languages).

/hh

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2841?viewlocale=en_US

and of course, you may get the different layouts from keyboard viewer on your own screen.
Just select the layout from International > Input Menu

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 17 octobre 2008 10:46:18)

Oh, man, is there any way you can attach a picture of a typical French keyboard? (And while we are on the subject, a typical German keyboard?)

See this page for some useful info on different layouts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout

I /still/ think a German keyboard ought to have certain extra keys with umlauts on them!

You can have your wish with the US layout, which creates umlauts via Option/Alt plus u. You then decide which letter to add it to.

CAUTION

The keyboards described by wikipedia are for "the other world" so, at least two modifier keys are swapped.
Their alt key is where we have the cmd (apple) one.
Their window key is where we have the alt (option) one.

Babel or not Babel ?

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 17 octobre 2008 15:49:27)

I think that a US keyboard and UK keyboard should have separate keys for stroke of i and the dot above, and for the stroke of j and the dot above.

While there is much to be said for making keyboards more multilingual than they are, I think the market for those with a specific key devoted to producing dotless i is probably confined mainly to Turkey.

An interesting effort to create a standard layout for covering as many Latin script languages as possible is

http://www.europatastatur.de/info1-9995-3.pdf