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No Firewire;  many possible problems

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Russ tolman Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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Oct 14, 2008 12:11 PM
I work in a large school district that doesn't like Macs. One thing that has allowed us to keep them has been the ability to image them with firewire Ports. Also, the ability to diagnose and fix problems using Target disk mode.

Would love to hear how I am going to do that now. Remember we have not OSX servers; Not supported by our IT department.

In my unknowledgeable opinion Apple really screwed up with no firewire port.

Schools without much money will be moving to cheap PC's.

Another dagger in my heart.
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  • Terry Dickinson Calculating status...
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:13 PM (in response to Russ tolman)
    So now, iMovie has no way to connect to a video camera on the new macbook ... am I missing something?
  • PT Level 7 Level 7 (20,870 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:21 PM (in response to Terry Dickinson)
    Terry Dickinson wrote:
    So now, iMovie has no way to connect to a video camera on the new macbook ... am I missing something?


    Nope. I just posted over in the iMovie '08 group mentioning it in case anyone actually wanted a new MacBook AND still use iMovie with their Firewire connected camcorders. The new model still comes with iMovie, but I guess they expect people to either import on another computer first, or only work with lower quality MPEG type cameras that connect via USB.

    Patrick
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  • D.Berk Level 3 Level 3 (995 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:40 PM (in response to Terry Dickinson)
    Firewire to USB adaptor
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  • doublerig Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:41 PM (in response to D.Berk)
    Is there such a thing? Do those even work?

    David
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  • PT Level 7 Level 7 (20,870 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:41 PM (in response to D.Berk)
    Really? I have yet to run across one. Please post some links.

    Patrick
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  • D.Berk Level 3 Level 3 (995 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:48 PM (in response to PT)
    I'm looking now because I need it too. If you do a google search, they do mention adaptors
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  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,050 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:48 PM (in response to D.Berk)
    D. Berk,
    Before that thread was deleted with your link to USB/Firewire adapters,
    there is no USB/firewire adapter there. You are going to have to be more specific with your link. All I see are bridge boards which have to have a power source either in a Firewire hard drive case, which has to be very specific to the bridge board and probably not the same in the Firewire only bridge boards that are on many external Firewire hard drives, or not possible to install inside a camcorder. Point is, you may find USB and Firewire on a single board, but that does not mean it converts a Firewire signal to USB or vice versa.
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  • Stuartea71 Level 2 Level 2 (175 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 12:59 PM (in response to a brody)
    (ignore wrong thread)

    Message was edited by: Stuartea71
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  • Eric W. Community Hosts Community Hosts (4,285 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:01 PM (in response to PT)
    PT,

    It is true that the new Aluminum MacBooks do not have FireWire and would not be able to use a DV camcorder that only has a FireWire or iLink connection. However there are a wide array of Camcorders available that are compatible with iMovie '08 that can be connected via USB 2.0.

    Depending on the model, the camcorders will support MPEG-2 (Standard Definition) or AVCHD (high definition) formats.

    For those camcorders with both FireWire and USB connections, USB is the preferred interface for iMovie '08

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1014

    Eric W.
  • D.Berk Level 3 Level 3 (995 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:06 PM (in response to a brody)
    Forget it. I was just helping. I need firewire too. The only thing i find is this one.This is all I am going to contribute to the discussion. Thanks

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  • PT Level 7 Level 7 (20,870 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:08 PM (in response to Eric W.)
    Eric W. wrote:
    However there are a wide array of Camcorders available that are compatible with iMovie '08 that can be connected via USB 2.0.

    Depending on the model, the camcorders will support MPEG-2 (Standard Definition) or AVCHD (high definition) formats.


    Hi Eric,

    But unless the user wants to spend a lot more money for an HD camcorder, this forces them to pick a much lower quality SD MPEG2 format camcorder rather that the higher quality of DV format. Of course for many people, they won't know, won't care, won't notice, or any combo of those.

    I just think it is interesting that Apple is clearly moving away from Firewire. Slowly, but certainly it is going away. And at the same time, slow to adapt eSATA ports.

    Cheers,
    Patrick
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  • doublerig Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:10 PM (in response to Eric W.)
    Eric W.,
    Are there a 'wide variety' of USB camcorders available? Yes. Of the 7 camcorders I use on a daily basis with my Macbook, are any of them USB? No.

    There in lies the problem.

    David
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  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,050 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:12 PM (in response to D.Berk)
    Unfortunately that lacks powered Firewire 6 pin connections, and uses iLink only. Doesn't help those who need a Target Disk Mode connection or Firewire over IP. I appreciate your discovering it though.
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  • yvonnejim Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Oct 14, 2008 1:12 PM (in response to doublerig)
    Just want to make sure, is there such an adapter that would/could work? Anybody?
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