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No Support for the Pro Market or even the Mac Mini users?

So we'll have to wait on an adapter to use this with a Mac Mini or a Mac Pro? Unfortunate, because I know a lot of people looking for an integrated web cam (or an iSight), with no option in the pro market. Sure there are add ons, but why leave out all the Mac Pro users? And what about the glossy screen? Surely more updates are on the way, but I don't think this is a good marketing decision.

I do like the features this has, but I was looking for a new display for use with my MBP, but this doesn't seem like an option.

Posted on Oct 14, 2008 12:16 PM

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Oct 14, 2008 12:29 PM in response to Mark Neal3

I would guess that this is a staggered roll out with two possible outcomes.

1) We will probably see an adapter for DVI to Mini Display

and/or

2) New updated displays will be coming soon.

Apple wants to be able to keep up with demand and they would like you to buy a new MBP before they sell you an adapter to use your old MBP with the new display.

Of course, who really knows for sure.

K

Oct 14, 2008 3:05 PM in response to Mark Neal3

Its a cruel joke right?
Keep us waiting for YEARS for an upgrade, then bring out the display we want and tell us we can't use it!
I have 2 non-mac 24" displays and they are junk.
To say that this was a poor marketing decision is an understatement... what are they thinking?
Please, give me the new displays and I'll never stray again.
... oh, and matte finish please!

Oct 14, 2008 10:11 PM in response to David DeCristoforo

I have never seen so much whining and complaining about something so simple.

The display is OPTIMIZED for use with MacBooks. Period. There is nothing prohibiting it from working with a Pro or Mini or older MacBook Pro. If you consult the Apple store you will see all kinds of Mini DisplayPort to DVI, VGA, Video, etc. connectors. The reality is the immediate solution is a short DVI extension cable along with the MDP-to-DVI adapter is all you need to use the LED display with a Mac Pro or mini. Granted, Apple should ship it with a simple adapter, rather than adding an additional third party cable to the configuration, but unlike the old VGA LCD Studio Display that shipped with a DB-15 adapter, that is no longer Apple's modus operandi.

THis is likely all moot as I am inclined to believe that by the time the display ships either Apple or a third party will offer the adapter. Further, I think all of the Displays will be updated with this MDP connector and Apple will eventually be forced to offer an adapter.

Oct 14, 2008 10:42 PM in response to Woodwyn

I don't think that solution is that simple. Apple's tech specs state "Compatible with MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro systems with Mini DisplayPort". If adapters were available, I think it would have also indicated "other systems with optional adapter".

While I believe adapters will be available and that there will be updates across the line, I'm not sure why an adapter isn't included. The adapters available now seem to be for connecting the new notebooks Mini Display port to other monitor connection types (ie vga, dvi).

Oct 15, 2008 7:29 AM in response to Mark Neal3

Our entire office actually cheered when we heard this new display FINALLY came out. We all have a Mac Pro at our desk (8 cores, 16GB RAM, the works) and we all have three displays connected to each of our Mac Pros. But the displays are all made by Dell and they really do suck by today's standards. And we're all using really crappy Logitech web cams for out video conferencing.

We've been waiting for new Apple Displays to come out with integrated cams and thought this was finally our time. I even got a memo yesterday telling me that I'd be getting three new 24" LED displays and was totally psyched.

Then today we got word that these displays may not actually work for us since we're using Mac Pros.

Seriously... w-t-f.

Oct 15, 2008 7:57 AM in response to Mark Neal3

The current Apple Mini DisplayPort adapters will not let you use the new Apple Cinema Display on Mac Pro, Mac mini, iMac, older MacBooks, or PC computers. This is because they all are designed to go the opposite direction and have the wrong gender to do what is needed here.

I have had a look on the Apple Store website and no other adapters are listed (yet). However I am sure in a matter of weeks, various third-parties will be coming out with suitable adapters, unless Apple have been foolish enough to patent the Mini DisplayPort connector to death (like the MagSafe connector).

I therefore suggest you keep an eye on the websites of companies like Gefen, Griffin, and Belkin.

Note: Apple will not be coming out with another 24" LED Cinema Display for desktops etc. It would be absolutely ludicrous to have two otherwise identical 24" displays. It is likely that at some point in the future Apple will switch to video cards for the Mac Pro which have built-in Mini DisplayPort sockets. I am not sure how happy Nvidia and ATI will be at this though.

Unless the Mini DisplayPort is part of the official DisplayPort specifications (and not merely that it is fully compatible) this looks like Apple making a mistake in that is goes back to 'proprietary' connectors and ghettoising their products.

Oct 15, 2008 8:17 AM in response to John Lockwood

It is likely that at some point in the future Apple will switch to video cards for the Mac Pro which have built-in Mini DisplayPort sockets.


According to Mr. Jobs you are correct. He stated in his address yesterday that the Mini Display Port will become standard across product lines. This really makes sense and you will begin to see DisplyPort technology on other computers as well since it supports so much more than DVI and is an open standard. A little research and you will see that it is better than HDMI as well.

K

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