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HDCP Support ??

Does the Apple LED Cinema Display support HDCP?

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Oct 14, 2008 11:36 PM

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Oct 19, 2008 8:03 AM in response to moses388

No, it doesn't because HDCP is specific to DVI and HDMI and the new LED ACD doesn't accept DVI as an input.

It may support DPCP, which is a similar form of signal encryption specific to DisplayPort, but Apple hasn't said anything definitively about that.
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Nov 5, 2008 11:05 AM in response to BSteely

I would be very interested to see if the 24" Cinema Display contains DPCP, because then it could theoretically serve as a Blu Ray compatible LCD, correct? I've been trying to find the answer to that question ever since October 14th, but no one seems to be talking about it.

I don't want to buy two LCDs (one to watch Blu Ray discs and one to use to do graphic design).
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Nov 5, 2008 12:24 PM in response to BSteely

Displayport can support HDCP

From vesa.org:

DisplayPort 1.1 adds capabilities to support High Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) for viewing protected content such as high definition movies on optical media. HDCP version 1.3 for DisplayPort will be provided by the Digital Content Protection (DCP) LLC. This version, expected to be finalized in early 2007, will allow products supporting either DVI or HDMI, and DisplayPort, to share a common encryption key set.


From wikipedia.org:

Newly featured in version 1.1 is the support of HDCP content protection
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Nov 6, 2008 7:44 PM in response to Mr Lizard

DisplayPort can support HDCP on a host, e.g. an output device that has DisplayPort can be made to output DVI or HDMI with HDCP. But a monitor is an input device. And a monitor that has a DisplayPort input does not work from DVI or HDMI, it only works from DisplayPort and as such HDCP does not apply.
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Nov 6, 2008 11:31 PM in response to BSteely

I can't find anything on the DisplayPort website that states the new 1.3 spec can't carry HDCP over a regular DisplayPort connection.

Could you provide a link to the site that states the signal must be converted to either DVI or HDMI in order to carry an HDCP signal?

Thanks
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Nov 7, 2008 10:00 AM in response to BSteely

No apology required! 🙂

In any case, it's probably worth noting that Apple hasn't yet said where they sit on supporting HDCP, so for the sake of answering the original poster's question correctly, I suppose we can say that whilst DisplayPort can handle an HDCP signal, we don't know if Apple will make sure of that facility.
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Nov 19, 2008 6:38 AM in response to moses388

My question is simple.
My HDready TV does not support HDCP.

Can i watch a protected movie on it with my future macbook and the Display port HDMI ? and if i want to use my RGB projector can i watch a protected movie ?

If it is not the case i'll think about not buying a new macbook.
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Nov 19, 2008 7:50 AM in response to Louis Poncet

My question is simple.
My HDready TV does not support HDCP.

Can i watch a protected movie on it with my future macbook and the Display port HDMI ? and if i want to use my RGB projector can i watch a protected movie ?

Probably not. See
<http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/18/apples new_macbooks_have_built_in_copy_protectionmeasures.html>
If it is not the case I'll think about not buying a new MacBook.

The old ones can't play them either, other than through an Apple TV..
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Nov 19, 2008 9:57 AM in response to Louis Poncet

In theory, you should be able to use a DVI or HDMI equipped dispay/projector, provided that the device is HDCP compliant.

But RGB is out of the question I'm afraid.

It remains to be seen how this form of DRM affects older MacBooks. It could well be that certain movies will only play back on the new MacBook, otherwise Apple's efforts to thwart unauthorised reproductions can simply be circumvented by using an older model notebook.

This is a particularly nasty DRM infection that flies in the face of fair-use policy, and in my opinion is a reason to avoid future movie purchases from the iTunes store, unless of course you don't mind being told what monitor you can and can't use to watch the film that you've just paid for.

🙂
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Nov 19, 2008 2:22 PM in response to moses388

I know this probably isn't the place to ask but I'm confused: I'm thinking of getting the Dell 2408wfp to use with my macbook pro. It has displayport and DVI-I that is HDCP compliant. Is the displayport connection also HDCP such that I won't have trouble playing any content on it later on?
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Nov 19, 2008 3:12 PM in response to nfbetancur

In theory you shouldn't have a problem, as DVI and DisplayPort both speak the same 'HDCP' language.

I would hope the DisplayPort to DVI adapter would 'preserve' the HDCP signal, but I've not tested it.

Unfortunately, a search of iTunes help for 'HDCP' brings up nothing, and a search of the support site only shows two articles relating to the AppleTV product (at the time of writing)
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Dec 4, 2008 12:14 PM in response to Mr Lizard

I recently bought the new Macbook Air Solid State. i purchased the Iron Man movie in HD. It plays perfectly on my Macbook. I tried connecting to my 19 inch monitor/ lcd and the movie would not play. I went to the stored, which has a new 24 inch led display on the floor( not for sale ) or I would have bought one or two. They had not heard of the HDCP thing in the store so I spent a few minutes with one of the geniuses who the tried a Mac Cinema display and could not get the movie to play. We then walked over to the LED monitor and plugged in. It worked perfectly and looked absolutely beautiful. I wish they had one ins tock or I would have bought one or two at that moment. No need for this cable and that other connection problems, just plug in and go. TV input will surely come soon. In the meantime, I have my 92 inch for that. Hope this helps everyone.
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Dec 4, 2008 1:54 PM in response to Malcolm Rayfield

Malcolm Rayfield wrote:
My question is simple.
My HDready TV does not support HDCP.

Can i watch a protected movie on it with my future macbook and the Display port HDMI ? and if i want to use my RGB projector can i watch a protected movie ?

Probably not. See
< http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/18/apples new_macbooks_have_built_in_copy_protectionmeasures.html>
If it is not the case I'll think about not buying a new MacBook.

+*The old ones can't play them either, other than through an Apple TV..*+


According to many other posts on this forum and others the old MB/MBP can play the protected movies just fine on a non-HDCP display such as the ACD. However the real problem has been that the same movie will not play on a new MB/MBP on the same monitor. Apple may change this in the future, but for now that apparently is the way it stands, and is what is causing all the ruckus - something that used to work no longer does work. I don't own any such movies so I can't say for sure, but I do own a late 2006 MB and have access to a Dell 2005fpw (which apparently does not support HDCP). Does anyone have an example of such a protected movie that requires HDCP?
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