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Mini DisplayPort to Composite/ S-Video??

Will there be an adapter to have this option? I think this is a vital option for both late 2008 Macbook and Macbook Pro!

Mac OS X (10.5.3)

Posted on Oct 15, 2008 1:41 AM

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Oct 23, 2008 6:19 AM in response to shr1nk

I have sent feedback to Apple. Please can you all do so too.

I am a VJ and the industry standard Edirol V4 vision mixer only has S-Video and Composite Video inputs.(This does not only affect the VJ niche market but also churches, schools, AV acts etc) The V4 retails at £600. The cheapest vision mixer with a VGA input is £1100. This is then downsampled inside to PAL resolution. There are scan (down) converters on the market, but a decent low latency one will cost £400. So because of a lack of a £30-£100 adapter, I will have to spend £400-£1100 to use the new MBP. This is unacceptable.

As a mac owner for nearly 10 years this hurts and for the first time I am contemplating a Linux/Windoze machine. I was waiting with my figure on the buy button for the new MBP's but now it seems pointless. As a pro user I won't be using the second gfx card to save power so the older MBP is going to be my only option if I do decide to stay a mac man........

Oct 23, 2008 4:55 PM in response to niemandmail

I have just submitted 5 feedback reports to Apple regarding their so-called MacBookPro. It is NOT a professional-grade computer.

I work in the theater, and I literally saved the day on one show. About a year and a half ago, we were on tour and their projector was inaccessible, the only way to feed it at all was a 50" S-Video cable. The show computer was a MacBook with those stupid Mini video ports, and they only had one adapter, VGA. I single-handedly whipped out my old G4 PowerBook with the built-in S-Video port and transferred the show files over to it.

Despite Apple trying to force people to abandon older technology, I MUST have S-Video and Composite video capabilities. I will NOT buy any computer that can't put those standards out. I have no choice, I MUST have those.

Oct 23, 2008 5:52 PM in response to shr1nk

I have tried the Mini DisplayPort to VGA - VGA to S-Video to output to my TV. I can barely recognize the signal on my TV. I'm not sure yet, but I'm guessing that my TV is at 30Hz and connecting the VGA adapter brings up display options that only go as low as 59.9Hz. If there is another way to modify the video out, I have not found it.

Good Luck

Oct 27, 2008 7:44 PM in response to niemandmail

*Mini Review - PC to Video EZ*

_*It works!*_

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I, and many others, have been looking for a way to output video (composite and s-video) from the NEW Macbooks and MacBook Pro's sporting the Mini DisplayPort since Apple as yet to release such adapter. I use my computer to output video (s-video) for digital slide shows and presentations. If our new aluminum MacBook could not meet this requirement back to the store it would go.

While searching the web for a adapter, converter or whatever could help get video out of the new MacBook I quickly learned ($10 later) that a simple VGA to s-video cable would not work.
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*NO GOOD!*

I soon came across the PC to Video EZ. It is sold at several online retailers but I finaly decided to buy it from NewEgg.com (links at bottom of post). NewEgg is retailer I knew I could trust and get fast shipping from. I ordered the converter box on Friday and it arrived today (Monday) with standard shipping!

Bottom line, the PC to Video EZ from GrandTec outputs video (both composite and s-video) at equal quality to Apple's own video adapters used on previous (pre-DisplayPort) computers. I, owning a MacBook Pro with DVI to video adapter, could not tell the difference.

The device itself is small. It is nothing you would complain about carrying around and it gets the job done.

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*PC to Video EZ from GrandTec*

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*PC to Video EZ with new button-less Track Pad*

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*PC to Video EZ with new aluminum MacBook*

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*PC to Video EZ with new Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter (still a required purchase)*


The back of the unit has two VGA ports, one in and one out. You can use the VGA out port as a pass through so you can still have your computer connected to a VGA monitor while outputting to video. A feature I will never use but it is still nice to have, especially for desktops.

Also on the back is the video ("yellow" composite) and s-video out.

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Back

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*Back with end of Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter*


On the right side of the unit you will find a place to plug in the power adapter. Good news, its powered by USB. Bad news, the thing needs to be powered at all... More bad news, the unit does not use a standard USB cable. You better not loose the one that comes in the box! At least there are no power bricks to lug around and a simple USB to wall power adapter (like the one used with iPod or the iPhone) should also power the device. My testing showed that power is required.

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*Power in. Why no USB A to USB B?*

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*USB power cable*


The unit comes with every cable you would need which is a huge plus! Included in the box is a short VGA cable (3 feet, which is perfect), a s-video cable and a composite video cable.

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*Included cables. All you need to buy is the Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter.*


Although not as neat as an Apple Mini DisplayPort to video adapter would be it does get the job done.

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*Typical Setup*

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*Final Product*


*The unit supports the following screen resolutions & refresh rates.*
* # 640x480@60/72/75/85Hz, 800x600@60/72/75/85Hz, 1024x768@60/75/85Hz and 1280x1024@60Hz. _On my SD TV I had luck with 1024x768@85Hz. Anything larger would not display._*

Pros:
* Power supplied from USB ~NO BULKY EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY!
* No software required! (works with Mac or Windows or any OS!)
* Composite and S-Video outputs
* VGA IN and VGA OUT for simultaneous TV/monitor viewing

Cons:
* Requires power
* Does not use a standard USB cable
* Not as neat as an Apple Mini DisplayPort to video adapter would be
* You still need to buy the Apple Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter


*Package Contents*
* PC to Video EZ
* User Guide
* Composite Video Cable
* S-Video Cable
* USB Power Cable
* VGA Cable

Links:
http://www.grandtec.com/products/video/untimateEZ.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815117101


I HOPE THIS HELPED MANY LOOKING FOR A SIMILAR SOLUTION. I KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE FOUND THIS POST I WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY HAPPY! PASS IT ON.

Oct 28, 2008 6:38 PM in response to Lougle

Hey Lougle -- that's really fantastic.

Would it be possible for me to republish this post on createdigitalmotion.com?

It may prompt others with similar suggestions.

(By the way, in other news, DisplayPort does support analog signal ... so theoretically, graphics card and drivers willing, it would be possible to create an S-Vid/composite dongle for DisplayPort as with mini-DVI, if Apple and NVIDIA so chose.)

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