restore/install DVD part number

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restore/install DVD part number

Dear all,

I have seen in this forum that the restore/install DVD for powerbook titanium G4 1GHz is 691-4316 with OS X 10.2.3. However I have seen another part number for sell on the internet which is 691-4060 with OS X 10.2.1. Does anyone know the difference between the 2 discs?
I want to install a bootable OS 9 in my powerbook. Which one should I use or both will work?

Thanks in anticipation.

Tibook 1GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Oct 16, 2008 8:15 PM

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tjk

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Oct 16, 2008 8:28 PM in response to ycchen

Hi y,

Welcome to Apple Discussions.

The first 1GHz models shipped with 10.2.1, while later shipments went to 10.2.3. I suspect this may be the difference between the two discs, although I do not know the number on the 10.2.1 versions. Note that if your PB shipped with 10.2.3, it will not boot from an earlier OS (such as 10.2.1).

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Oct 16, 2008 9:05 PM in response to tjk

Hi tjk,

Thanks for the info. This is really helpful. Can I tell from my PB if 10.2.3 or 10.2.1 was shipped originally, such as from the boot ROM version or serial number? I bought this PB second-hand and really need to buy a copy of the original dvd to install os 9 on it.

Thanks
YC

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tjk

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Oct 17, 2008 1:57 PM in response to ycchen

You can go here and find out exactly when your PB was produced. I don't know the date the OS was changed, but the closer to Sept 03 yours was built, the more likely it shipped with 10.2.3, and the closer it is toward Nov 02, the more likely it shipped with .1.

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eww

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Oct 17, 2008 5:15 PM in response to ycchen

Hi, ycchen. Call Apple Customer Relations at 1-800-767-2775 with your Powerbook's serial number handy. Ask whether the discs for your machine are still available, and order them if they are. It has been reported here that they are no longer available, but it has also been reported since then that someone else was able to obtain them this way, so it would be helpful if you'd post back here after calling and let us know what you find out, one way or the other.

If the discs for your machine (an Install/Restore DVD and an Apple Hardware Test CD, and perhaps an Airport software CD) are no longer available, see whether Customer Relations can supply the part numbers for them, so you can search for and positively identify them elsewhere.

If you don't need to be able to start the Powerbook up in OS 9 (as opposed to just using OS 9 in Classic mode within OS X), you can copy a working OS 9 System Folder from another Mac. Just doing that will give you Classic capability, though you won't be able to boot into OS 9.

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tjk

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Oct 18, 2008 6:36 AM in response to ycchen

One other thought, if you can find the 691-4316 with OS X 10.2.3 disc (ebay?), it doesn't matter which OS your PB shipped with, the disc will work for you.

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Oct 18, 2008 11:23 PM in response to eww

In response to the following from eww "If you don't need to be able to start the Powerbook up in OS 9 (as opposed to just using OS 9 in Classic mode within OS X), *you can copy a working OS 9 System Folder from another Mac*. Just doing that will give you Classic capability, though you won't be able to boot into OS 9."

Well, i did try this option and the outcome is more than I have expected. I got a BOOTABLE OS 9 now running in my Tibook 1 GHz.

What i did was just to copy the OS 9.2.2 system folder from my iBook G3 onto an external HD. I didn't expect this will work. But, obviously the WHOLE system folder can be copied over though the iBook still runs on the very OS 9 system folder. I love OS 9 for this intuitive operation - copy whatever over and it will work just like that!

By connecting the external HD to my Tibook USB port, I accidentally restarted the computer and somehow the OS X 10.4 on the powerbook failed to start up automatically, whereas the powerbook chosen to start up from the external HD. Hoopla! It boots from the external HD on OS 9!!

What happened next was straightforward. I can say now I have 2 partitions in my TiBook 1 GHz, with one running OX 10.4.11 and the other OS 9.2.2. I am able to start up one system and then change over to the other using the control panel "startup disk" and vice versa. This is exactly what I am looking for. And i did it WITHOUT the use of any of the original discs.

I can give more info about how I did it exactly in case there is interest from people in this forum but I think it will belong to another thread...

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eww

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Oct 19, 2008 7:04 AM in response to ycchen

Very interesting, ycchen.

I suspect that there may be some "hidden," or at least less-than-obvious, limitations on the operation of your surprisingly-bootable copied OS 9.2.2. For example, it's unlikely that your iBook's model-specific installation of OS 9.2.2 contains an appropriate driver for the different video accelerator in your Powerbook, so you may not have video acceleration when running the Powerbook booted into 9.2.2. At its most basic, that could limit your scrolling speed on the Powerbook, and of course it would probably affect video playback, action game play, etc. You also may not have the full capabilities of your SuperDrive available when booted into OS 9. But if your particular uses of the Powerbook in OS 9 aren't hampered by such limitations, they may not matter to you, in which case congratulations on a successful and surprising outcome.

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