is ram 200 pin (as specified in manual) or 204 pin

I think the manual might be mistaken, it says that the ram is 200 pin. However all the SODIMM DDR3 PC3-8500 that I can find on the net says 204 pin. Which is right?

--dan

ibook, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Oct 17, 2008 2:03 PM

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Dec 30, 2008 3:57 AM in response to danaronson

Even though this has already pretty much been confirmed - I will add another confirmation just for the heck of it.

After a talk with Apple Support today, they confirmed to me that the specifications are / were incorrect regarding the pin numbers, the correct memory module specs. is of course DDR3 204-pin (PC3-8500) So-DIMM.

Having 200-pins would also be quite odd, as the JEDEC Standard No. 21C (Page 4.20.18-1) states that DDR3 SDRAM Unbuffered SO-DIMM (PC3-6400/8500/12800) should have 204-pins.

Anywho, happy hunting for cheaper retail modules. =) I myself am not going to pay 3x times the price just to have Apple modules "because I can", I would rather throw that doe into something else.

// Michael

Jan 3, 2009 5:26 PM in response to Community User

Right you are - but sadly that doesn't stop websites from trying to sell 200-pins (though I'm sure they just have their facts wrong, pretty sure it's not deliberately), take for example Best-Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9146667&type=product&id=1218035197 495

🙂

Any who, I'm looking forward for a package containing 4GB Kingston DDR3 SoDIMM RAM - quite the savings as compared to the Apple kit. Sadly I couldn't find any CAS-timing specs on the Apple kit, but I can't imagine it having some insane timings which would thwart the Kingston (which have limited lifetime guarantee mind you!), that would make them worth the about 3x price tag. 🙂

Jan 3, 2009 6:51 PM in response to aliciar

Oh I see, that sure sounds like bad luck indeed. You don't happen to have the model numbers off the modules you tried out?

But thank you for the heads up - nice with the guarantee and everything. 😉

I did notice quite a few people complaining over trouble related to upgrading ram on their MacBook's - but I sure hope this has been freak accidents.

Generally speaking problems related to faulty ram modules, have been very scarce in my case (and I sure have made by deal of upgrades and custom builds). Actually have a bag of various ram modules laying around here somewhere (50+ modules) - always comes in handy. ;-D Sadly though, no SoDIMM in the candy bag...

Any who - upon retrieval I will see how it goes. I will report any findings (good or bad). Hopefully good. ;-D

Jan 3, 2009 8:19 PM in response to micdah

The code for the Kingston ram is KTA-MB1066K2/4G

The ram itself seems to be fine (all hardware tests are ok), so it would have to be the new chipset in the new model mb/mbp that is fussy.

I am waiting on 4gb of ram from an ebay seller. Some have had good luck with this particular ram so I thought I would give it a go as well. Should hopefully arrive this week.

Jan 3, 2009 8:36 PM in response to aliciar

Ah well that is much worse now isn't it. Faulty ram is easy to take care of, get a new "pair". But a faulty (fussy is just a nice word for it 😉 ), is way worse!

Any who, checked my order and can see that it is apparently a different model of RAM I have ordered, a pair of KVR1066D3S7/2G.

The ".../4G" in the model name you wrote would imply it was a 4GB single-module kit? I suspect it wasn't for a MacBook right? (I'm wondering whether you are trying with a single module of 4GB or the more optimal of 2 modules of 2GB).

Jan 3, 2009 9:19 PM in response to micdah

The Kingston I bought was specifically for the new mb/mbp. It came in a 4gb kit with 2 x 2gb sticks. The RAM you have ordered seems to be for standard laptops not Apple Macs and is value ram. However I am guessing they can be used and might work.

The KTA-MB1066K2/4G comes with a lifetime warranty where the value ram does not.

Jan 4, 2009 6:04 AM in response to aliciar

Ah right, I see. Do you know the details of the "built for ..."? It would seem it is not compatibility as that hasn't been working out - might be the timings? But then again, having better timings for ram modules on a laptop seems redundant. 🙂 (but nevertheless something we all want to maximize! 😉 ).

I'm pretty sure they ought to work, as they conform to the specified standards, so unless the MacBook is "fussy" - there should be no problem. 🙂

Just a little side note regarding the guarantee - the value ram comes with a lifetime guarantee as well (you can look at Kingston's website: http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack= http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR1066D3S7/2G&id=8). Without having checked all fully, I'm pretty sure they give that guarantee for all their memory modules - as discussed earlier faulty ram is very rare which is why they can do so.

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