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New MacBook Display is Horrible

I just got my new Aluminum MacBook last night, and it's going right back for refund this morning. The LCD is far inferior to my 1st generation MacBook display, and it's actually one of the worst displays I've seen on a modern notebook computer. I've been an Apple owner since I bought an SE/30, but Apple has screwed up badly here, and I find the new MacBook nearly unusable. (Please note, my current MacBook has a glossy screen; that level of glossiness is not the issue here.)

The issues:

1. The whole screen has an icky blue cast, and nothing in the display calibration settings will fix this. My old MacBook has a much more pure and natural looking white. I think Apple needs to work more on the LED back-lighting (or maybe they cheaped out on the MacBook LEDs).

2. The blacks on the new display are washed out. This is obvious on the start-up animation (with the multi-lingual "welcome" animations against the Leopard nebulae in space). It's not just an issue with black images, however, this propagates to everything looking less crisp. And it's not an issue of adjusting brightness or screen angle. In fact, if you try to adjust the screen angle to get some reasonably good blacks, you get parts of the screen where you have a metallic or posterized effect. I saw this in the store displays as well, but I didn't realize that it would occur under normal viewing angles vs. extreme situations.

3. Colors are not vibrant (nothing compared to my 1st generation MacBook). By not vibrant, I mean that different hues of blue, for example, are not distinct from one another. When I open Word, the splash screen has four different blue colors in the "feather" shape at the top right. On the old MacBook the blues are distinctly different and colorful, on the new MacBook they are much closer in hue and more dull. I think this is a result primarily of issues one and two above, but it may also have to do with other aspects of the inferior LCD on the Aluminum MacBook.

4. The new MacBook screen should be called "mirrored" not "glossy". My 1st generation MacBook has a glossy screen. It's good. I rarely have an issue with visible reflections from it. The new MacBook is a constant battle. One major problem is that the screen needs to be pushed farther back to get reasonable contrast, but this angle directly reflects ceiling lights at the user. It's also so significantly more reflective than the previous glossy screen that it picks up windows and floor lamps and everything else a lot more easily. It's a mess.

I hope this helps other folks avoid my mistake in seeking to upgrade from an existing MacBook. The new one is not any faster in day to day use (3D rendering excepted), and it has crippling issues with the display.

Aluminum MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Oct 18, 2008 5:59 AM

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Oct 20, 2008 2:50 PM in response to JNFilms

JNFilms,

Thanks for your help. I think you may be right: it may be a calibration issue with my external monitor. The problem is, the calibration utility that came from Samsung does not work anymore, possibly because of compatibility with Leopard (I had used it with 10.4 previously but never with Leopard). They did not release an update for this utility yet, and I am trying to contact them to seek an alternative solution.

Regarding the laptop screen, I'm using it in in primarily mid-light conditions indoors. My room isn't too bright, and the curtains are always down, and these conditions worked well with my previous machine. I think I'll take your advice and take my Macbook to the store and compare it with a display one.

Thanks again for your help.

Oct 20, 2008 4:56 PM in response to HopingForHelp

How can opinions be that far apart on this topic?

Is the new MacBook screen compareable to the MacBook Pro 4,1 screen? (Apart from the glossy)
Is the new MacBook screen any different to the old MacBook screen?
Is it better? Is it worse?

Have you blueish-hue ppl checked that your ColorSync is still on? System Prefs -> Displays -> Color?

I don't understand how an video editor can say that this display rocks and so many other ppl keep saying that it's awful?!

Oct 20, 2008 10:16 PM in response to JNFilms

I have a first gen MacBook 1.83 Core Duo (bought the first day it came out) and a new Aluminum MacBook 2.0 (I waited til the weekend for this one 😝 )

The screen viewing angle, colors, and sharpness are much nicer on the new MacBook. Part of this could be that the old MacBook is, well, getting old. But the new MacBook has a gorgeous display-blacks are black, and the colors are quite vivid.

I was surprised to see a comparison on one of the blogs showing terrible viewing angles/contrast on the new MacBook they had-I'm guessing there must be a bad batch of LCDs out there. I have seen LCDs that get that weird "negative photo" effect when you look at them at certain angles-the new MacBook does not have that issue, at least from a side to side rotation angle (the vertical rotation is not that great on my old MacBook and the new one)

Sorry to hear others have issues-it was one thing I checked out at the Apple Store before buying-the ones I checked all had pretty decent viewing angles (although, of course, they can't match the incredible Studio Display viewing angles, or even the MBP displays)

Oct 21, 2008 6:37 AM in response to Hachre

I can confirm that after using a Spyder Pro colorimeter to calibrate the new macbook 13" screen, it still ***** compared to (1) the macbook air and (2) the previous generation macbook pro. What bugs me more than anything is, why wouldn't apple use the same display as the macbook air in the new macbook 13"??? The macbook air display is really nice. Very good contrast, deep blacks, very sharp. Better than the previous generation macbook pro in my opinion.

The contrast on the new macbook 13" aluminum display is just not up to par. Even after calibrating the screen things look washed out.

Just in case apple is thinking that this only matters to graphic designers who wouldn't buy the 13" in any case ... in my opinion the lower contrast negatively affects viewing text as well.

I would even pay an extra $100 for an option on the macbook for the "good" display (i.e. the one from the macbook air).

These opinions based on lining up the following 3 machines side by side after calibrating with a spyder 2 pro colorimeter

macbook air 1st gen
macbook pro glossy screen prev generation
macbook 13 brand new aluminum model

Oct 21, 2008 3:42 PM in response to Glorfindeal

It would be really useful if everyone on this thread reported their LCD panel numbers, then we could see if what's going on is that there are some displays that are great and others that are awful. It certainly seems that way from everyone's comments!

To check, look at System Prefs -> Displays -> Color -> Open Profile, then click on item 13 and look at the Model Number.

I'd report mine, but I haven't purchased the Macbook yet... still too nervous having seen these discussions!

Cheers,
Simon

Oct 21, 2008 8:18 PM in response to explorz

explorz wrote:
Oh how I wish it was just calibration. The issue is primarily about such a narrow viewing angle. The slightest shift in screen angle and the blacks immediately wash out. My old powerbook handles contrast so much better. Do I have a messed up screen, or is this standard on these new Macbooks?

All the calibration in the world can't fix a screen with extremely limited viewing angle. Or am I missing something here?


Why does everyone think it's the screen (it may very well be), couldn't it also be the Nvidea graphics chip? On every machine I've had with an Nvidea graphics board, first thing I did was replace it with an ATI board. The whites were never white on the Nvidea. What does the Macbook Air use? Intel grapgics?

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Oct 21, 2008 11:06 PM in response to drpdrp

Two reviews which compared the new MacBook and MacBook Pro in the same review have both noted that the former's screen is lacking compared to the latter's. In fact, Engadget calls it "crappier". Personally, I said the same exact thing when I saw them in the store. They are definitely lacking the mojo the Pro's screen has, and it's not calibration. I also think the screen on the original Air was slightly more vivid and brighter than the current MacBook's.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/macbook-and-macbook-pro-review/2
http://gizmodo.com/5063492/macbook-and-macbook-pro-dual-review

Note: In the Engadget review, the picture right under the paragraph they call the MacBook's screen crappy show the old MacBook, the new one, and the Air next to each other. Notice the brightness and colours on the Air versus the new MacBook to its left. I realise the picture is from a distance, but up close the differences are truly obvious to the discerning eye.

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