Slow tap-to-click response on trackpad

Hello

I am new to MacBook and Mac OS X, but I've discovered after using the trackpad that there are two essential features I depend on on any touchpad: tap-to-click and double tap-to-drag, both working together.

However, I am becoming increasingly annoyed with the tap-to-click feature in Mac OS X on my MacBook Air, because there is always a delay (between 1/4 - 3/4 second) before a tap actually does anything. The thing is--the two-finder tap (which activates the Secondary Click) works instantly, so I know the mouse is aware that I am tapping. In fact, because of this delay, performing a triple-click by tapping the trackpad is not possible. (A triple-click is often used by programs to quickly highlight a line or paragraph, similar to how double-click highlights one word).

By the way, this issue is resolved IF I disable "tap-to-drag" in the Keyboard & Mouse Preferences. I tried this way for a week but got my wrist got really uncomfortable when I always tried to drag by using the physical mouse button. I always use one hand to control the touchpad, so the tap-to-drag feature is essential for me.

I have a suspicion that the "tap-to-drag" feature is somehow waiting for me to either let go of the trackpad or keep it held down before deciding whether it is a single tap or a "tap-to-drag" tap, but this delay time is driving me nuts. All the touchpads I've used on Windows have the same two features enabled by default yet always respond instantly. Is there anything I can do on my Macbook to get a quickly responding touchpad?

I wonder if this problem is specific to my model or hardware--can anyone else triple-click by using only their MacBook's touchpad (not by using the physical mouse button) while the tap dragging is also enabled in System Preferences? Thanks.

Message was edited by: chaotic_thought

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Oct 18, 2008 1:48 PM

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Oct 23, 2008 9:13 AM in response to fernando maxia

Hi

Thanks for your response. However, the problem still stands. Simply stated:

There is a 1/4 second delay on every click that is performed by tapping the touchpad. For double-clicks performed on the touchpad, the delay is slightly less, but is still there.

Disabling the "tap-to-drag" feature will eliminate the said delays, but I really need the "tap-to-drag" feature in my daily computing.

Altering the "double-click speed" setting does not affect the delays.

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The suggestion to double-click instead of "click once to select the file" and then "double click to open" is useful but not very common. Most clicks I perform are single-clicks anyway. Clicking on a link, for example, or clicking on a button. Probably my usage might be as follows (from most frequent to least):

Single clicks using the touchpad
Drag using the touchpad (tap to drag)
Right-clicks
Double-clicks

Note that this list is the same if I'm using a PC Laptop. And all PC Laptops I've tried support the "tap-to-drag" in concert with the "tap to click" function (with no delay).

Oct 18, 2008 4:43 PM in response to chaotic_thought

I spent one month to learn how to use touch pad of MBA. Up till now suddenly start a link or open a file I wanted just to drag or other commands I dind't want.

I learnt: one click to sign the file, then to tap with very light pressure, very gently for drag (I always try to move to see if I catched the file) and two double click with a bit heavier pressure to open the file. In the MBA movies in preferences system/ mouse, you can see the example how Apple suggest: one click, then the second click and without raise the finger move it on pad. Another regulation I made was in system preferences / mouse/ make the double click a little faster.

i found the touch pad very interesting, it's similar in new macbooks; I'm enjoing myself to use the fingers commands and now I'm confuse with mouse or old macbook white. It's very interesting the three fingers command to change page in browser, or two finger to grow vision (photo or printed web) etc. etc. I think these fingers commands will be on touch screen in the future, like on iPhone actually.

I noticed too my hand became very tired in short time. It's usual I put a second finger on the pad and start the secondary click or other i don't want. I think to put my left hand under the right wrist, to have a support for wright hand. I had briefly pains, cramps in right hand as I pay too much attention to the mouvements of fingers on the pad. I'm sure when I'll be able I'll be more smooth in the movements.

In Macbook forum, there are very interesting threads about the new touch pad of macbooks. One of them says that if the touch pad is exposed to the sun the mouse became crazy. I think it maybe is because that touch pad is sensible to heat as it knows the touch from heat of finghers?

Thank you for your question. I was feeling a little clumsy myself.

fernando

Oct 18, 2008 7:10 PM in response to chaotic_thought

Thanks for your response. The two- and three-finger gestures work perfectly. It is only the tap-to-click that is giving me problems (whilst tap-to-drag is enabled: see original post).

Interestingly, I increased the "double-click speed" for an interesting test. While it is on the fastest setting, double-clicking becomes impossible by tapping. Double-clicking is still possible with the physical mouse button, but as I mentioned, I normally don't use the physical mouse button and prefer to tap on the pad to click and drag.

To test this behavior, do the following:

1. Go to System Preferences, Keyboard & Mouse.
*. Set Double-Click Speed to "Fast" (the rightmost slider point).
*. Check "Tap to Click".
*. Check "Dragging".
*. Uncheck "Drag Lock".
*. Close Keyboard & Mouse.
2. Try to double-click a file by using the physical mouse button.
3. Try to double-click a file by using only the trackpad.

Message was edited by: chaotic_thought

Oct 19, 2008 4:14 AM in response to chaotic_thought

Dear Chaotic_thought

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, as I didn't know triple click feature. You make the example of a triple click for underlining a paragraph.
Now I have the speedy of double click on my pad at 7 position (fast but not the max). I have tried a triple click: one click to position mouse in the paragraph, then click (one-one-one not speedy as double click: one-two speedy). The paragraph is underlined at once, you can try in safari too as I did.
Thank you for learning me this new feature.

I think the pad is waiting our orders. If we activate meny funtions, the pad have to understand what we wont. So, uncheking drag stop, or drag too, the click is istantaneus, very fast. If I check (on mouse preferences) the drag and the drag stop, the pad seems to wait me for the end of my command, waiting the 1-3/4 seconds you noticed.

I noticed this in mighty mouse too in my old macbook white. This seems slower than a kensington mouse. I thought mighty have too many features (left-right click, click on round button, click left and right together, etc.) it seems my macbook good but little slow (1,8 G
Gh, no graphic processor etc.) but with a simplest mouse and cleaning HD, my old macbook is a train very faster (it seems). I thought more features have a mouse o pad and more accurate I must be and a little delay of time to mouse understands my orders.
I'm afraid the new touch pad in new macbooks are more complex with other features too and maybe they are little slower (the pad wait you to understand what you want to do)

I tried your experiments: you are right: to max speedy of double click, is impossible open a file impossible double click. No difference with external mouse. Pay attention: in the mouse preferences, the pad and the mouse have different window: did you set at max speedy both?

Finally: double click speedy 8/11 on pad; all features on (drag and stop);
- one click the little delay you noticed (no problem for me);
- double click (one-two fast) open files;
- double click without rise finger after second click: drag files, then one click to stop;
- triple click slow: one-one- one select all the paragraph as you say.

If triple click you want is a special feature of other particular software, I don't know. If so, you have to try it inside theese software, where maybe the triple click is seen differently.

Excuse me if I misunderstanded your problem and question. Do you want explain better about this triple click, if I'm not annoing you?

Tanks for this interesting thread.

fernando

Oct 21, 2008 4:00 AM in response to fernando maxia

I'd like to add something. Reading again your first post, maybe now I see your problem: are you annoing waiting the slow monitor show the file selected, after one click?
I agree with you: if working fast with many tasks, this dalay is bad. Looking for a solution for you (and me) I noticed this mistake I do:

1 step: i put arrow mouse over the file;
2 step: I click the file to select it to be sure I'm working with it;
3 step: I give the command (double click or other).

I suggest you (and me) an option faster:

-1 step: put arrow mouse over the file you want;
- ( NO step 2- bypass it);
- 3 step: directly double click (or triple click) over the file without selecting it before: it reacts immediatly

I noticed, with mouse I don't select the file before open it, I put mouse over the file and directly I get the command. Usually I bypass the second step. With touch pad, as I'm not sure about my fingers mouvements, I loose time selecting it first to be sure I'm working with the correct file.

Maybe your problem is in the second step (one click to select the file before), too slow before monitor shows the file selected (and only then, you go on with double click). Maybe it is, as you say, because the pad is waiting for other command from you for 1-3/4 seconds as your set double click speedy (if you set double click slow for example 10 sec (exagerating), the pad wait 10 sec for other click from you before understand and go on .
So, I think you can bypass the second step (select file before) but you can directly double click when mouse over: it opens (or drag) immediatly.

Hope to help you as it will help me. I'v just learned a new feature I didn't know.

thank you

fernando

Nov 14, 2008 1:23 PM in response to Ealing

If you disable "tap-to-drag" in the system preferences, the tap response becomes much better. However, I really like tap-to-drag... so it seems you have to choose either fast-response or slow response with tap-to-drag.

A software replacement for Apple's mouse driver is available here:

http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/index.html

However, it is incompatible with the trackpad on newer macbooks such as the MacBook Air.

In general the Mac trackpad is starting to annoy me. Sure, it has the "multi-touch" capability but it feels awkward, and using this extensively (like the scroll feature) really tires my hand out. Same thing for the two-finger tap right-click (which I use all the time). It's extremely awkward to right-click if you are using Windows on your Macbook Air. You have to hold two fingers on the trackpad and then click the mouse button. huh?

Nov 18, 2008 12:01 PM in response to nguyenkhai1

Glad I'm not the only one finding having to pause when triple-tapping annoying. I just bought a MacBook Pro (prev. gen., w/matte screen) and I now have to pause for a second before doing the last tap to select paragraphs and such. What's odd is, I'm coming from a (white) MacBook and triple-taps worked just fine there (yes, with Dragging enabled).

It must have to do with the first implementation of the three-finger swipe hardware. Or does this happen with the GlassBooks as well?

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