Bootcamp Windows with new 9400m and trackpad

Good advice Kappy thanks.

I did use the disks with the new macbook pro,
and all devices got drivers correctly.

The 9400M is not detected at all in windows device manager so it must be the appley bios not showing this hardware to windows,
and the 9600GT is detected and drivers provided by MBP disk.
The 9600GT runs very hot like most high end nvidia video cards at 72 degrees centigrade, so to be able to use the 9400M chip in windows would be very valuable. I am concerned that the high temperature will cause premature wear on the machine.

The trackpad drivers provide basic one click and two finger right click in software, but no sign of 3 and 4 finger gestures, and the glass pad physical click is fiddly in windows, unlike in Mac OSX it is accurate.

That big glass pad click is cool, but very noisy!

Your right, I should not expect anything like the experience I get in OSX.

I have experienced in building Windows systems and understand the differences between XP & Vista. I just thought mentioning these little items here may encourage a bit more development of those new hardware parts for windows, especially the cooler video chip as that heat could shorten the laptop life.

Thanks again Kappy

Interesting, I'll take a look at this Arlen, thanks.

Incidentally, I had run just the 9400M in OSX since I got it, so I tried switching to the 9600M GT in OSX and the heat really came on with that, so its not just a Windows thing, that 9600M GT kicks out 75 degrees centigrade as standard i reckon and super heats the top left corner of the macbook pro. Thats the price you pay for the power i guess.

There must be a bootcamp windows driver for the 9400M otherwise the non pro macbooks wouldn't be able to run windows in boot camp at all! right?

Any Macbook (late 2008 unibody non pro) users out there running boot camped windows?

I have now tried the techniques in laptopvideo2go.com, and can report that you can install a driver for the 9400M using their methods BUT all it is doing is running the 9600M GT with a 9400M driver, it works, but doesn't enable Windows to use the 9400M hardware.

I am guessing that as the 9400M is a chip on the MacBook Pro motherboard that it is the Nvidia CHIPSET drivers that make the 9400M chip usable in windows, then a Nvidia VIDEO/GRAPHICS driver is then needed to use this hardware, just a guess. As (in my case) devise manager never finds more than one 'Display Adapter'

BUT it remains that IF the new MacBook (non pro) and AirBook can bootcamp Windows then there's a bootcamp Chipset and Video Graphics Driver out there for the 9400M. I tried MacBook install disk (non pro - unibody) bootcamp nvidia chipset and video driver install and it didnt find the 9400M, so i think it is a intelligent installer that prevents 9400M installation if the 9600M is present or some kind of hardware check and restriction.

I don't understand why apple does not want us to use the 9400M in windows, and forces us to use the extremely hot running 9600M only???

Apple can you hear me? Are you out there? What gives?

Here seems to be a definitive answer from Nvidia:

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/stdadp.php?p_faqid=2243&p_created=1224019013&p_sid=SxxZcpjj&p_accessibility=0&p_red irect=&p_lva=2243&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9M SwxJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2Vhc mNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bWFjYm9vaw**&p_li=&ptopview=1

If the link doesnt work this is what it says:

NVIDIA Hybrid SLI® support on Apple Macbook Pro
Question
Does the Apple Macbook Pro (Late 2008) support NVIDIA's Hybrid SLI® technology?
Answer


No. NVIDIA Hybrid SLI technology for notebook computers allows a motherboard GPU and a discrete GPU to work together for extreme multi-GPU SLI performance when needed (called GeForce Boost mode), or use just a single GPU for low power consumption and long battery life (called Hybrid Power mode).

Apple's Macbook Pro (Late 2008) does feature both the NVIDIA® GeForce®9400M motherboard GPU for everyday computing and the NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GT discrete GPU for high graphics performance. You can switch between the Geforce 9400M motherboard GPU (called "Better Battery Life") and the Geforce 9600M GT discrete GPU (called "Higher Performance"), but you cannot use both GPU's at once in this implementation.

Apple's hybrid graphics technology is supported under the MacOS X operating system version 10.5.5 and higher only. When running Microsoft's Windows XP™ or Microsoft's Windows Vista™ using Apple's Boot Camp, the system locks into higher performance mode which uses the Geforce 9600M GT discrete GPU for all graphics related tasks and can not be changed to use the Geforce 9400M motherboard GPU for battery life mode.

For more information on Hybrid SLI technology, click here: Hybrid SLI

For more information on the Apple MacBook Pro featuring NVIDIA technology, click here: Apple MacBook Pro

Yes, thank you Apple for working on the trackpad windows compatibility, found the update in windows xp from the apple software update just now. The two finger up and down scroll is very erratic and too fast, but having proper two finger right click is great.

I hope now you can get us access to that lovely 9400M video chip.
My 9600M GT video chip is acting up and freezing in both windows and osx (especially with 3d games), had my third genius session today at London Regent St Store, and a replacement logic board has been ordered. Hope that sorts it out.

Edit: I tried windows xp's 'Control Panel' > 'Mouse' > 'Wheel' and adjusted
'Scrolling' 'Roll the wheel one notch to scroll:' 'The following number of lines at a time:' from 6 to 1 or 2.
This makes the two finger vertical scrolling smooth and controllable.

Message was edited by: markneal