Setting margins in Pages [Page Layout view]

My guess is that you have activated the feature "Show Layout".
You may get rid of it with "Hide Layout".

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 18:58:33)

If I understand well, nothing is odd.

When the layout is visible (gray border), the 'button' is entitled "Hide Layout" to give us the ability to suppress the gray border.

When the layout is invisible (no gray border), the 'button' is entitled "Show Layout" to give us the ability to display the gray border.

This switch of button title is a frequent feature.

Incidentally, is there any way of saying you want, say, a 96 pp document to start with?

There is no direct access to this scale value.

We may do the trick using the brute force.

control click the document's icon to get the contextual menu allowing us to "Show Package Contents". Select this item.
You will see the contents of the package.
Double click the icon "Index.xml.gz" to expand it as "Index.xml".
Drag "Index.xml.gz" on the desktop for safe.
Open "Index.xml" with TextEdit or with the free TextWrangler.
Search for the string "page-scale".
Leave the 1st occurence as is.
Go to the second one (it's the last one).
You will find something like that:

<sl:window-configs sl:layout-version="5">
<sl:window-config sl:frame="356 62 1106 1116 0 0 1920 1178 " sl:guides-visible="false" sl:page-scale=" 0.75" sl:sidebar-paragraph-pct="0.39974617958068848" sl:sidebar-character-pct="0.29949238896369934" sl:sidebar-list-pct="0.30076143145561218">
<sl:selection>

edit the numerical value which is just after the searched string.

Here it was 0.75, replace it by 0.96

Save the Index.xml.

Open the Pages document.

The used scale factor will be the wanted 0.96.

Check that all works well. Save the doc.

You may now trash the "Index.xml.gz" which is on the desktop.

Happy scaling.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 19:27:29)

Colin,

You are right I get exactly the same thing. It is odd.

Not only that but when I insert a new "Text" page I get an oversized text box that is inset 2.54cm in from the left and top and pops off the side of the page.

It appears to be ignoring the page set-up of A5.

I assume you did what I did which is start with an A4 blank document and change it to A5.

Actually I think you are describing setting a 96% view scale? I want to start with a 96 pp book - as one would have done say in Page Setup with PageMaker

As I never encounter this formula "96 pp", I assumed that you wanted to default at 96% scaling. What means 96 pp? Is it 96 Point Per Inch ?

If it is that we have no way to set that.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 20:54:03)

It is the industry way of writing pages, I presume so that it doesn't get confused with p or pts for points.

It appears to be ignoring the page set-up of A5.

I assume you did what I did which is start with an A4 blank document and change it to A5.

May you give some details?
I don't understand how you may hope to be able to define the format before opening a blank document?
The page setting tool is unavailable as long as there is no open document.

I can't check the described behaviour.
My laser printer doesn't offer the A5 format.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 21:01:45)

Open a blank page in Layout mode.

+Menu > File > Page Setup… > Paper Size: A5 > OK+

If you do not have an A5 to select, create a custom page size.

Modify the margins etc.

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
Open a blank page in Layout mode.

+Menu > File > Page Setup… > Paper Size: A5 > OK+

This assumes that you have an open document and _the setting apply only to this document_ .
I don't remember having encountered an other behaviour, at least with program starting from templates.

If you do not have an A5 to select, create a custom page size.

I may define a custom size but I can't apply it, it ALWAYS remains grayed !

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 21:19:41)

The fact that it only applies to the open document is irrelevant.

The problem exists.

I have no problem with either select A5 or creating and using a custom page size.

May I suggest you go to Help, "it is for you also".

The fact that it only applies to the open document is irrelevant.

+*Setting Page Orientation and Size*+
+By default, most Pages templates are created for standard paper sizes, with the text printed in portrait (vertical) orientation. If _your document_ will require a different paper size or you want to print it in landscape (horizontal) orientation, you should set the paper size and orientation at the start. This way, as you work in your document, you will have a clearer idea of what it’s going to look like.+
+If you start with a Blank (word processing) or Blank Canvas (page layout) document, it is in portrait orientation by default. “Setting the Paper Size and Orientation” on page 222 provides instructions for changing the page orientation and setting up paper size.+

I have no problem with either select A5 or creating and using a custom page size.

May I suggest you go to Help, "it is for you also".

Are you knowing the behaviour of my printer ?
I wrote that I may create a custom format but that the driver always diplay it in GRAY.
I didn't wait for your advice to ask the manufacturer about that. It's the designed behavior (The printer is a Dell 3100cn and in fact Dell never imagined that it was running connected to a Mac OS system).

In French we say "Quand on ne sait pas on ferme sa g....." !

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 22:39:35)

No, not your printer …

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
No, not your printer …

May you translate ? I don't understand what you mean.

I will be back tomorrow.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 6 novembre 2008 22:50:19)