How can I use DiskWarrior without the boot-up disk or firewire???

I downloaded DiskWarrior to rebuild the HD in my MBP because it's getting a bit slow and seems to "think" a lot these days, I don't want to wait the 3 weeks to get the disk, so on the Alsoft site I'm told that without the bootable disk I need to install it on another machine, but my other machine is a new macbook with the infamous lack of Firewire and therefore also no facility to startup and target drive.
Any ideas?

New 13" MacBook and older 15" MB Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Nov 7, 2008 12:30 PM

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Nov 7, 2008 12:44 PM in response to Kez_F

If you have an external drive you can use, then install OS X on it, put the DW application on the drive, then boot from the external drive. You could also use a USB flash drive if it's 8 GB or larger.

Or you could use Disk Utility to repair your drive:

Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions

Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger and Leopard.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.

If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger, and 4.1 for Leopard) and/or TechTool Pro (4.6.1 for Leopard) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.

Of course neither Disk Warrior nor Disk Utility will make your computer run any faster unless the drive is corrupted. What you might also do is some maintenance:

Kappy's Personal Suggestions for OS X Maintenance

For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot handle the best third-party utilities are: Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible. TechTool Pro provides additional repair options including file repair and recovery, system diagnostics, and disk defragmentation. TechTool Pro 4.5.1 or higher are Intel Mac compatible; Drive Genius is similar to TechTool Pro in terms of the various repair services provided. Versions 1.5.1 or later are Intel Mac compatible.

OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts had been significantly reduced in Tiger and Leopard.

OS X automatically defrags files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems.

I would also recommend downloading the shareware utility TinkerTool System that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old logfiles and archives, clearing caches, etc.

For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the commandline. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard.

When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand. I also recommend booting into safe mode before doing system software updates.

Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):

1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial - not yet universal binary)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware)
6. SuperDuper! (Commercial)
7. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
8. Data Backup (Commercial)

The following utilities can also be used for backup, but cannot create bootable clones:

1. Backup (requires a .Mac account with Apple both to get the software and to use it.)
2. Toast
3. Impression
4. arRSync

Apple's Backup is a full backup tool capable of also backing up across multiple media such as CD/DVD. However, it cannot create bootable backups. It is primarily an "archiving" utility as are the other two.

Impression and Toast are disk image based backups, only. Particularly useful if you need to backup to CD/DVD across multiple media.

Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.

Additional suggestions will be found in Mac Maintenance Quick Assist.

Referenced software can be found at www.versiontracker.com and www.macupdate.com.

Nov 7, 2008 12:44 PM in response to Kez_F

The secret is to install Disk Warrior on a Leopard installed USB hard drive.
Intel Macs support booting from USB. PowerPC Macs only do that on Mac OS 9 when it is possible to boot into Mac OS 9. You still though must use the discs that came with the Mac to install Mac OS X, unless you have a later retail edition of Mac OS X to install. Once that's done, then you can put Disk Warrior on that external hard disk, and repair the internal.

Of course, backup your data first*:

http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html

- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.

Nov 8, 2008 4:37 AM in response to Kappy

Running the Disk Utility it seems that the HD is OK, so I decided to try the bootable clone solution. The only ext disk I have is a new 16 gib iPod connected by usb2.

I used Disk Utility to Restore, dragging the installation CD to source and the iPod to destination, which seemed to work ok, once it finished I went to sys pref and selected the ipod as startup disk but on startup I got a blank grey screen and eventually gave up and holding doen the power key and restarting normally, which was ok. Does it make any difference that I'm using the install disks that came with the MBP as opposed to a store-bought software package?

Nov 8, 2008 9:25 AM in response to Kez_F

Be sure you've first partitioned the iPod's disk using GUID partition scheme. If you don't do that then it will not boot the computer. Do this:

Extended Hard Drive Preparation

1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. If you need to reformat your startup volume, then you must boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)

2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.

3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (only required for Intel Macs) then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.

4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.

5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.

6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.

When formatting has completed, then re-select your installation DVD, click on the Restore tab in the DU main window. Drag the installation DVD to the Source field, then drag the iPod disk to the Destination field, and then click on the Restore button.

Dec 29, 2008 8:14 PM in response to Kez_F

one question..
is it possible to take out the hard disk in the macbook and place it on a external usb case then hook into other mac like imac, then run disk warrior on imac to repair the main partition?
because im having problem booting into leopard, DU reported that my primary partition "key out of order"

someone can give some idea about this kind of situation? i have a lot of assignments on that partition i don't wan to lose it.

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