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USB works with 9.2.2. but not with 10.3.9.

I have a dual boot G3/266 Beige Minitower. The system profiler indicates that USB ports are available in OS 10.3.9.; however, USB devices are not recognized. The USB card (ADS Dual Link 180 USB/Firewire) did recognize USB devices when I had 10.3 installed, but installing 10.3.9. put a stop to this. USB Devices work fine in 9.2.2.

I thought there was an updater available at one time that might be able to help me. I am weary of contending with a kernel panic and would like to find the least troublesome method of rectifying this problem.

Any information that can be offered would be greatly appreciated.

G3 266 Beige Minitower, Mac OS X (10.3.x), Dual Boot 9.2.2./10.3.9., 768MB RAM, Rev. B ROM, Radeon 7000 64MB Video Card, Seagate Cheetah 73GB

Posted on Nov 8, 2008 2:31 PM

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Nov 28, 2018 12:02 AM in response to Community User

I have read http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=485201&tstart=132 (why I didn't find this before is a mystery) and I am checking with ADS Tech to see if my PCI card (ADS Dual Link DLX-180) is a counterfeit. It has 4 USB ports (1 internal and 3 external) and 2 external FireWire ports. My card does not look like the photo of the card on the installation manual (which does not show an internal USB port). The written description of the card on the plastic "blister" packaging is identical to the photo on the manual. Products are subject to change and this might account for the card/literature discrepancy. I will post my findings. Thanks for your time.
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Nov 28, 2018 12:02 AM in response to Texas Mac Man

Hi Tom,

The following seems relevant in that it deals directly with USB issues. I can't seem to find discussion about this.
http://developer.apple.com/hardwaredrivers/download/usbdebug.html

This is the download that matches my system:
Mac OS *X 10.3.9 7W98* IOUSBFamily.kext 2.1.5 System Update v 217.4.4

My IOUSBFamily.kext extension version is 2.1.5

My System Software Overview:
System Version: *Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98)*
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.9.0

Readme for IOUSBFamily-217.4.4-log
Release Notes: This is the version of the IOUSBFamily that shipped with *10.3.9 (7W98)* but with logging enabled. It will overwrite all the header files associated with the IOUSBFamily. It will install the latest versions of USBProber.app and the tool usblogger. A restart is required. (USBProber.app will now install the KLog.kext, if needed, when you click on the "Start" button of the USB Logger pane.)

I am contemplating installing the 10.3.9 Combined Update; however, I prefer to deal with my USB problem directly instead of updating my entire system. Does this seem reasonable or is this a wrong-headed approach.

Thanks for any thoughts you or others might have regarding this,
Jerry
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Nov 28, 2018 12:02 AM in response to Limnos

Thanks so much for your reply. I did two things: checked the System Profiler and looked at the card itself. The card appears to verify the System Profiler information. Please forgive me if I have provided too much information.

The *System Profiler provided the following data* about the card:

pci10b9,5237:
Type: usb
Bus: PCI
Slot: A1
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5237
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5237
Revision ID: 0x0003

pci10b9,5237:
Type: usb
Bus: PCI
Slot: A1
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5237
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5237
Revision ID: 0x0003

pci10b9,5237:
Type: usb
Bus: PCI
Slot: A1
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5237
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5237
Revision ID: 0x0003

pci10b9,5239:
Type: usb
Bus: PCI
Slot: A1
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5239
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5239
Revision ID: 0x0001

pci10b9,5253:
Type: firewire
Bus: PCI
Slot: A1
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5253
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5253
Revision ID: 0x0000



I took the vendor information and checked it on PCI Database:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=569

*The vendor and subsystem vendor appear to be* (the chip set on the card has ALI in large letters):

Ali Corporation
6F, 246 NeiHu Road, Sec. 1
4F, No.3, Industry E. Rd. Hsinchu 30033, Taiwan
Taipei 114, Taiwan
+886-2-8752-200

Vendor Id: 0x10B9
Short Name: Ali
Contact:
Web Site: www.ali.com.tw
Notes: Updated from incorrect entry

*Three device IDs appeared for the card*:

0x5253
Chip Number: M5253
Chip Description: IEEE P1394 OpenHCI 1.0 Controller

0x5239
Chip Number: 527210B9
Chip Description: USB EHCI2.0 Controller
Notes: Driver

0x5237
Chip Number: M5273 A1 for windows 98
Chip Description: OpenHCI 1.1 USB to 2.0
Notes: My port USB 1.1
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Nov 28, 2018 12:02 AM in response to Texas Mac Man

Hi Tom,

Thanks so much for your memo. I wanted verify the legitimacy of my PCI card before attempting other measures. I have examined the page you suggested and the my next step is to install the OS 10.3.9. Combined Update (I think I did this a couple of years ago).

I am reluctant to tinker too much since my machine has otherwise been running well for 2 years. Kernel panics scare the **** out of me and AppleJack (I bow to its inventor) pulled me out of a seemingly inescapable abyss during the last one. It generally takes me several tries with XPostFacto to install OS 10.3 from OS 9.2.2. if things go terribly wrong. It doesn't seem to take much to upset the balance of my dual boot system.

I will keep you posted.

Take care,
Jerry
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Nov 8, 2008 3:03 PM in response to Community User

According to an [ADS web page|http://www.adstech.com/Support/Downloads/Downloads.asp?product_Id=DLX180&p roductName=DUAL%20LINK%20PCI%20CARD] the drivers only support up to 10.2.8. (USB 2.0 Drivers for Mac OS 10.X
Version:3.1.2 Supported Operating System: Mac OS X (up to 10.2.8 ONLY))

Do you know what chipset is on the card? An old posting I kept from a previous discussion mentioned that OSX has support (inbuilt drivers) for NEC chipset cards.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:42 PM in response to Community User

I am contemplating installing the 10.3.9 Combined Update; however, I prefer to deal with my USB problem directly instead of updating my entire system.


The Combined Updates have been very well-behaved and generally not caused problems, even when they are applied multiple times. I would try that approach first.

I would not recommend installing stuff from the developer pages unless you are prepared to analyze any future problems using a debugger program.

The long term solution, if the Combined Update does not fix your problem, may be to buy a USB card with an NEC chipset (for compatibility back to OS 9) or an RTL8139 chipset (for OS X only).
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