9 Replies Latest reply: Nov 16, 2008 1:54 PM by Tom Gewecke
hermexial Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Does anyone know how to create a small katakana character using a key command in Kotoeri? For instance: a small vowel after デ such as イ.

MBP 15 early '08, Mac OS X (10.5.4)
  • 1. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    Zlig Level 4 Level 4 (1,340 points)
    Hi [this free software|http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6511/katakana-practicer-for-osx] should be helpful.
  • 2. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,730 points)
    Does anyone know how to create a small katakana character using a key command in Kotoeri? For instance: a small vowel after デ such as イ.


    See if this helps:

    http://homepage.mac.com/thgewecke/kotoericodes.jpg
  • 3. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    hermexial Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Well...That is in fact a hiragana chart, and while the alternate sound glossary is a useful thing to have, my inquiry is how to make those entries occur using Kotoeri. However I thank you kindly for your input.
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    biovizier Level 5 Level 5 (7,925 points)
    Try looking a little more closely at the chart...
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    hermexial Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I shall note that supposedly typing the letter "l" before a vowel will reduce its size. As it should, seeing as how (though some transliterate differently) there is no L sound in Japanese, but instead more of an R.

    So to get ラ リ ル レ ロ, one would type ra ri ru re ro. This leaves the L free to serve the proposed function. And this works out perfectly in Windows, and it is possible to set Kotoeri to function "like windows", as it is put.

    However I prefer the way that Kotoeri operates, save for the fact that typing L before a vowel gives me the same result as would an R, instead of minimizing the vowel.
  • 6. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,730 points)
    Well...That is in fact a hiragana chart, and while the alternate sound glossary is a useful thing to have, my inquiry is how to make those entries occur using Kotoeri.


    That's not a chart of "sounds". As implied by the url, it provides the Kotoeri input codes. Surely you know the hiragana for デ and イ. Is DHI what you want? That gives me でぃ in Hiragana and ディ in Katakana.
  • 7. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,730 points)
    PS You might want to have a look at the Kotoeri Help (at the bottom of the "flag" menu when Kotoeri input is active). It has the chart I referenced earlier, plus info on switching to Windows-like keyboard operation (Kotoeri Preferences > Operation > bottom right checkbox) and lots of other stuff of possible interest.

    Small vowels can also be made independently by putting X first (Mac or Windows operation) or L first (Windows-like operation). This is shown in the second row of the two charts.
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    hermexial Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Yes I see now. I thought some of those sounds were a bit odd, well that is; I had never heard of them in my studies, but they make sense for emulating Chinese. But yes, that works perfectly.

    ごめんなさい と ありがとうございます。
  • 9. Re: Kotoeri Key Commands
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,730 points)
    I thought some of those sounds were a bit odd, well that is; I had never heard of them in my studies


    This article might help explain some of the oddities:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wāpuro_rōmaji