9600 and Xpostfacto

My question is simple - can Xpostfacto work on a 9600 installing OS X 10.2? Further, on my system, I do not have a drive on the internal or external busses, but I do have 4 drives on a Jackhammmer PCI card. Will I be successful?

Mac Pro, G4, 9650, PB100, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Nov 18, 2008 8:52 PM

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Nov 18, 2008 9:46 PM in response to timoots

According to the [xpostfacto specifications page|http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm?page=Compatib ility.html] it should run on a 9600. You might want to peruse hte page yourself on provisos regarding support for various features. They also have a tech forum which would probably be a good place to post questions about having all your drives on a PCI card. I know that getting OSX to run on older machines can be a touchy business, especially when you get away from the non-standard configurations.

Nov 19, 2008 8:35 AM in response to Limnos

Thanks. I have tried it already. It usually fails completely and just boots up os9. I have tried forcing a read of the osx install disc (holding c during boot) and the closest I get is this -

1.) brief flash of apple logo and then circle with line through it. I take this to mean that xpostfacto has installed bootx and is trying to access the cd-rom to install osx BUT the CD disc is not good or the wrong version of osx

2.) in 'verbose' condition I get something like ... can't access scsi bus 0 device 3 (cd reader)

3.) I believe I have also seen in verbose mode a failed attempt to read the drive on the jackhammer bus

Nov 19, 2008 9:21 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks.

Yes. Tried using all OS 9's -- 9.0 - 9.2.2. OSX cd is present (10.2). 4 drives available on jackhammer bus (scsi bus 2). OS 9.2 and 9.2.2 installed using OS 9 helper.

As I stated above, normally nothing happens - OS 9 boots up, instead of the system installing from the OS X disc.

In verbose (no auto-boot), I choose between "BYE" and "BOOT". "BYE" brings me back to OS 9 system. "BOOT" attempts to read from the jackhammer drive to no avail (can't open)

After forcing startup from the CD, "BOOT" then leads to -- ... OS X loader ... can't read from CD

The cd drive is fine. The hard drive I am attempting to install on is Apple formatted.

Nov 19, 2008 11:39 AM in response to timoots

From inside XPostFacto running under OS 9, you select "Boot from this CD and Install on that Hard Drive". Once you say OK, it should create a "Helper" disk on the candidate Hard Drive, write some stuff like a modified BootX and some kexts on it, boot from it, and begin running the Installer. No intervention should be required.

You cannot boot from the CD. (If you could, you would not need XPostFacto!) The "Helper" disk is what you need to boot from.

Darwin, which Mac OS X uses to boot up, does not actually use a loadable SCSI driver to get itself booted up. It relies on a "standard" built-in driver to get going, then may add a .kext for better performance when running Mac OS X.

Your SCSI driver may be inadequate. You may want to consider installing a modest sized IDE drive to get going, then seeing if you can clone it to your SCSI drives.

Nov 19, 2008 11:58 AM in response to timoots

Timoots, first read the Xpostfacto Forums and find which release is more compatible with your 9600. Then by far the easiest method of installation is to find a Mac that will run and install OS 10.2, in your case preferable a graphite tower model.

1. First the drive must be Erased and Formatted to OS 9.

2. Remove the hard drive from the 9600 and install it as a second (slave) drive in the tower or in an external fire enclosure.

3. Install the Xpostfacto software on the hard drive, then install OS 10.2.

4. Now reinstall the hard in the 9600.

JG

ps. I just read Grants post that the HD in the 9600 is SCSI, I did not know this. anyway as he said maybe you can make a clone.

Message was edited by: Joe Gordon

Nov 19, 2008 1:37 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I installed several different version of Mac OS X, 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4, on Beige G3s using SCSI drives.

I was never able to get them to boot directly from an ATTO UL2D card, a card that was never sold in that Mac. (Your note about seeing "can't open" jogged my memory.) I was able to get them to boot from the built-in SCSI Bus, and was able to get them to run using a drive on the ATTO card once booted up. I was also able to get them to boot from an IDE drive and use a pair of SCSI drives on the ATTO card for a RAID array using Mac OS X built-in RAID software. I do not remember whether they would boot from the ATTO or Apple-branded ATTO Express PCI PSC card -- for some reason I did not want to use that card.

One other suggestion I left out of my previous post was to move your Boot drive to the built-in SCSI Bus and see if XPostFacto can Install from there. I do not think an older version of XPostFacto will solve your "can't open" problem. If you have other troubles, you may want to try an older version of XPostFacto in the hopes that it was debugged with the 9600 in mind and will work a little better.

UL2D users: Support for the ATTO UL2D drops out at around 10.3, so that particular card reverts to the default driver and becomes much slower.

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