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Classic II, booted once, then appears dead.

Hello all, I hope you can halp me with this one!

I recently got a Macintosh Classic as an addition to my "collection". The seller said that it had'nt been turnd on in about 4 years, so when I got it home, I plugged it right in and it booted up fine; played with it for a while exploring the harddrive etc. and after about 15 minutes turned it off. When I tried to start it a little later... NOTHING! It is absolutely stone dead. When you flip the switch, nothing happens, no sound no movement or anything.

I am not a total rookie on macs, so i tried all the usual stuff, but this problem is beyound my understanding.

Please help?

iMac G3, Classic, Classic II, PB Duo 230, PB 520c, PB 3400c, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier

Posted on Dec 3, 2008 1:46 PM

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Dec 4, 2008 5:20 AM in response to zeppelin8711

zeppelin8711,

When you say +"i tried all the usual stuff,"+does that include a keyboard restart? Also known as a 'warm boot,' it will often get around dead battery issues. Turn on the computer, give it a minute to 'warm up.' Hold down the command key and the control key at the same time, then press the soft power key on the keyboard.

If you get no sounds or action of any kind, use a multi-meter and verify that you are getting power, ie. no bad fuses, cords etc..

Jim

Dec 11, 2008 4:04 AM in response to Appaloosa mac man

Jim,

I tried your soft reset, but it didn't even react; as I wrote earlyer, it was probably pointless to reset a mac that dosn't have any signs of life... thanks for the tip though, (worked on my PowerMac 7100AV that had booting problems).

I also checked the fuse on the powerboard, but it was strangely in prime condition. Any other ideas on why my classic suddenly went stone dead (with NO warning signs...)???

Dec 18, 2008 12:01 PM in response to zeppelin8711

Hmmm, well it sounds like you are checking the logical suspects so lets go for the illogical ones.

-power cable, since this sounds like a no power issue did you swap it with a known good one?
-fuse in the power supply, sounds like you checked it, did you use a continuity tester?
-main cable from the power supply to motherboard, unplug and plug it back in, check for pulled wires and if you have a continuity tester check all leads.
-pram battery, I don't think this will be the issue but might as well be sure.
-check the motherboard for swollen/leaking capacitors although this issue shows up as video problems, http://www.kevinomura.com/macs/classicII/index.html
*the Classic II and Classic are nearly identical under the skin except for the motherboard so if it's a dead power supply you can probably swap one out of a Classic or swap in a Classic motherboard to check your power supply.

Kevin

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Dec 12, 2008 2:02 PM in response to Niteshooter

Hi Kevin!

Powercable is checked 🙂 Fuse also, did conduction test, so it is ok. Tested the lot, even the capacitors on the motherboard are OK! Put the motherboard in a Classic to test it, and it worked, so it definetly is a power issue... sadly I don't even know where to start when searching for dead components on the powerboard.

Peter

Dec 18, 2008 12:01 PM in response to zeppelin8711

zeppelin8711 wrote:
Hi Kevin!

Powercable is checked 🙂 Fuse also, did conduction test, so it is ok. Tested the lot, even the capacitors on the motherboard are OK! Put the motherboard in a Classic to test it, and it worked, so it definetly is a power issue... sadly I don't even know where to start when searching for dead components on the powerboard.

Peter


You can use the power supply from a Mac Classic to fix your Classic II. In terms of board level repairs my first step would be the good old fashioned sniff test to see if you can smell something blown, also look at all the components for signs of burn out.

Did the Classic board boot in the Classic II? Shouldn't.

Failing that replace the component....which is typically what Apple's service source would recommend.

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Dec 17, 2008 3:53 AM in response to Niteshooter

I know I could transplant the powerboard from the classic, but then I still would have a dead computer 😉 only a different one... I think I will hand it in to a electronics repair shop and have them check the analog board and at the same time change the capacitors on the logicboard...

Thanks for your help!
I will mark the question as solved.

Dec 18, 2008 11:53 AM in response to zeppelin8711

Hmm I've done that, decided to repair a parts donor and wound up with Macs multiplying like bunnies...

Maybe check out a local computer recycler or the second hand shops and see what you find.... or not
as that can be dangerous..... also check eBay as well my feeling is the labour costs at the repair depot might be on the high side unless you know someone working at one.....

Kevin

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