Pros and Cons of Synching vs. Sharing for a large iTunes Music Collection

Hello,

Still learning here.....I did an inital synch with my iTunes collection from ATV which took a long time. My ATV is a 40GB version which is currently about the size of my iTunes collection. I was surprised to see my ATV with only about 32GB of useable space (why is that?) so as a result my ATV does not have my entire music collection which is only going to grow. So... I am was wondering what others prefer when their iTunes collection exceeds ATV hard drive size? What would pros and cons be between the two methods?

My first thoughts are that with synching, you are going to have to take the time to determine what to leave on and off but with streaming I'll have access to everything all the time. Thoughts? Tips? Any resources for a topic like this to learn tips beyond what Apple has on their support page for this topic?

Thank you so much as always!

Message was edited by: epfegn

Dell Latitude, Windows XP

Posted on Dec 8, 2008 9:46 AM

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Dec 8, 2008 10:01 AM in response to epie

Your HDD reports 32 GB for a couple of reasons, the first being the difference between binary and decimal protocols, secondly because part of the drive is used for the OS and some other stuff.

Primary libraries have many advantages over secondary ones and I would generally advise a primary library. Whether you sync or stream is up to you, I stream most of my content since my itunes library is always available, but if your library is on a laptop which might be taken to work or similar, then you would likely want to sync some of your content so it's available at all times.

Any content not synced from a primary library is streamed unless you opt otherwise.

(Please excuse my unsupported nomenclature)

Dec 8, 2008 5:32 PM in response to Winston Churchill

Thanks again Winston! I am a little confused by what you say below. You say "primary libraries have many advantages" which sounds like to me you are saying that this is the synched library on ATV from iTunes but then you go on to say you prefer streaming which I thought meant that nothing resides locally on your ATV under this scenario. Can you please clarify for me?

Thanks!

Dec 9, 2008 4:35 AM in response to epie

I refer to libraries as primary/secondary rather than sync/stream because although a secondary library will only stream, a primary library will sync and stream. Having a primary library instead of a secondary one has a number of advantages:

Purchases made on the tv will only transfer back to a primary library.
You don't need to load a primary library every time you change content type.
The remote application for iphone/ipod touch only works with a primary library
Etc, etc, etc.

So I choose to have a primary library for these reasons, but I choose to sync only photos and a handful of other files, I stream all of my other content.

Dec 9, 2008 7:50 AM in response to Winston Churchill

Nice explanation! So let me test my understanding here using your system as an example. You say you sync photos and stream everything else. Does this mean that you have set ATV to "Custom sync" only photos and then check box to stream everything else?

Also, if I wanted to switch completetly to "stream" from a primary libray do I first go into "Computers" tab on ATV and "cancel" the sync and then go into the "share" menu and enter that password instead into my iTunes account?

I know for sync, it took like 4 hours to put in 8000+ songs. Will it take this long for "stream" configuration?

Thanks!

Dec 9, 2008 9:05 AM in response to epie

epfegn wrote:
Nice explanation! So let me test my understanding here using your system as an example. You say you sync photos and stream everything else. Does this mean that you have set ATV to "Custom sync" only photos and then check box to stream everything else?


Yes, more or less.
I do have some content that I don't want on my tv (ie, ipod versions of movies that I already have as tv versions) which I uncheck so they don't stream.
Also, if I wanted to switch completetly to "stream" from a primary libray do I first go into "Computers" tab on ATV and "cancel" the sync and then go into the "share" menu and enter that password instead into my iTunes account?


No, that would change it to a secondary library which although would stream everything for you would also lose you some functionality. To stream everything (except for photos that is) from a primary library go to your sync options and deselect the sync checkboxes in each category.

I know for sync, it took like 4 hours to put in 8000+ songs. Will it take this long for "stream" configuration?


When a primary library is linked to the tv there are two sets of data that are copied to the tv; The content itself and a library database file. The database file is relatively small (mine is around 20 MB) and is updated regularly which takes (for me) around 20 seconds. The content is much larger and can take a significant amount of time to copy (of course you only need to do it all once), if you sync nothing from your primary library then it won't take any time at all.

Dec 9, 2008 1:09 PM in response to epie

Answered already, but day-to-day I keep anything on it that I may want to watch while my MP is asleep, ie. TV shows for that late night viewing. Films are an early evening or weekend afternoon thing while the MP is up and running.

You may have your own viewing routines. Generally, I'd stream everything but just sometimes I put the computer to sleep.

I also have another routine for travelling, sync everything I may want to watch while away, a mix of everything, old favourites and new tv show episodes, then I take the ATV and cables with me to watch whatever I like wherever I am in the world.

Dec 11, 2008 11:00 AM in response to epie

A follow-up on this. I was reading another post ''Can I sync only part of a library to the ATV?" - Dec. 7 and wanted to make sure i still understand using the two scenarios below:



1. If I want to stream my entire music library and sync some photos from a primary library, I keep all songs "checked" but uncheck the "sync all music" button under "music" tab. I then go to the photos tab and pick which albums I want to sync. I also make sure I have the "stream all content which is not synced' button checked on the main sync option page.

2. If you want to sync some songs and stream others, the only way to do this is through a custom playlist. Downside is you will not have your music grouped by album, artist, etc on ATV but upside is you pull into the ATV what you want synched. Simply "Unchecking" songs prevents them from synching or streaming and thus those songs unchecked will not be playable on ATV.

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Dec 11, 2008 11:28 AM in response to epie

epfegn wrote:
If I want to stream my entire music library and sync some photos from a primary library, I keep all songs "checked" but uncheck the "sync all music" button under "music" tab.


Yes (and uncheck syncing in the 'movies', 'tv shows' etc tabs as well)

I then go to the photos tab and pick which albums I want to sync.


Yes

I also make sure I have the "stream all content which is not synced' button checked on the main sync option page.


Other way around, the box you refer to is 'show only synced content' and should be unchecked to allow streaming.

If you want to sync some songs and stream others, the only way to do this is through a custom playlist.


Yes

Downside is you will not have your music grouped by album, artist, etc on ATV but upside is you pull into the ATV what you want synched.


You get exactly the songs you want, but they will still be grouped into 'artist', 'album' etc on the tv.

Simply "Unchecking" songs prevents them from synching or streaming and thus those songs unchecked will not be playable on ATV.


Yes

Dec 12, 2008 8:07 PM in response to Winston Churchill

Not quite out of the woods yet 🙂

I wanted to test the above synch/stream combination from my primary library by leaving my music synched and streaming photos:

I first turned on my ATV, then opened iTunes, and then tried to test the above. I left on "custom sync", unchecked the "show only the sync items on my ATV" and then went to "photos" tab and unchecked the "sync photos from" box which greyed everything out. I then went back to "Summary" tab and pressed the "sync" button. Walked over to my ATV and went to "My Photos" and says "There are no photos on your ATV. Set-up a connection with iTunes to sync photos to yur ATV"

So....how come my photos are being streamed from my ATV and I can;t see them?????

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