Replace/Add HDD (128 GB limit ?)

I have a PowerMac G4 (AGP) with the following specs:

Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (AGP Graphics)
Machine Model: PowerMac 3,1
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9)
Number of CPU's: 1
CPU Speed: 450 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
Memory: 1.12 GB
Bus Speed: 100 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.2.8f1
Serial Number: removed

ST3160023A
(Seagate Barracuda 160 GB HDD)
Capacity: 128 GB
(should be 160 GB, but I understand G4 will only
‘see’ 128 GB max, maybe I formatted it wrong, initially. I
don’t know)
Model: ST3160023A
BSD Name: disk0
Protocol: ATA
Unit number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
OS9 Drivers: Yes
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified

Currently formatted as follows:
OS X System: 40 GB
OS 9.2.2 System: 16 GB
File Storage: 70 GB
File Storage: 2 GB (some of my old OS 9.2.2 apps won’t see storage
bigger than 2 GB)
File Storage: 130 MB (left over during partitioning, not sure how this
happened)

The HDD seems to be getting noisier and I am worried I might lose it.
My plan is to install a second hard-drive, format it and partition as HFS+ for OS X and OS 9.2.2. I am not sure of its size. It is an ATA/IDE drive, (second drive in a PC that I don’t use much). I believe that it is 80 GB, however, it could be a 160 GB or 200 GB. The PC is not here, but I will be getting it to check.

My questions here are as follows:
Is true that my G4 will only ‘see’ 128 GB? I am under the impression that there are ways to get around this with proper portioning. Is that true? If so, how do I accomplish that? I generally am in the habit of using master/slave configuration. Should I stick with that or use Cable Select (CS)?
I have Carbon Copy Cloner v2.3. Can that be used to directly clone the existing OS X 10.4.11 system to the partitioned new HDD and have it work properly?
I have no concerns transferring 9.2.2. I have done that many times, by simply copying it.
Then, can I reformat and partition the original HDD such that I will have access to all 160 GB, for example, (2) 80 GB partitions or 120 GB/40 GB, etc?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and advice.

Dave

Message was edited by: Moderator

PowerMac G4 (AGP), Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Dec 12, 2008 11:52 AM

Reply
3 replies

Dec 12, 2008 1:06 PM in response to David Raye 1x

Your are limited to 128GB, except for the alternatives below. Partitioning won't help you avoid the 128GB limit. Use the Master/Slave jumpers on the two hard drives. You can use Disk Utility on your current OS X system to format & partition the new drive. On the new drive, be sure to check Install OS 9 drivers when you format it to HFS+(Journaled). While booted in OS X, you can use Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer your current OS 9.x /files to the new drive's OS 9 partition & your current OS X/files to the OS X partition.

Look at these links.

What Macs natively support large IDE drives? (over 128GB formatted)
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/action.lasso?-database=faq.fp3& layout=FaqList&-response=answer.faq.lasso&-recordID=34188&-search

How Big a Hard Drive Can I Put in My iMac, eMac, or Power Mac?
http://lowendmac.com/macdan/05/1024.html

Using 128 GB or Larger ATA Hard Drives
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2544

The Power Mac Storage FAQ
http://forums.macnn.com/65/power-mac-and-mac-pro/246391/the-power-mac-storage-fa q/

Possible Alternative - SpeedTools ATA Hi-Cap Support Driver: Allows the use of extended capacity ATA drives (drives greater than 128 Gigabytes in size) on older (Pre Mirrored Door) G4 and G3 Macintoshes running MacOS X versions 10.2 and later. Cost $24.95
http://www.speedtools2.com/ATA6.html

Possible Alternative 2 - Larger than 128GB drives can be used by adding a PCI ATA/100 or ATA/133 controller card, one which is 48-bit LBA compliant; or by adding a PCI SATA controller card and using SATA drives.

 Cheers, Tom 😉

User uploaded file

PS: Don't put you serial number in posts. A forum moderator will delete.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Replace/Add HDD (128 GB limit ?)

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.