9 Replies Latest reply: Feb 14, 2009 10:54 AM by Buegie
EricSPeltier Level 1 Level 1
So, as a itunes neophyte 3 years ago, I ripped in my whole CD collection, using a 320 bit rate and MPEG4. These 320 files are taking up too much space on a HD and I'd like to squish them down.

In a perfect world, I'd tell itunes to convert all files in my itunes folder to a 128 bit rate, and the next morning it'd be done. Am I dreaming?

HP Laptop, Windows Vista
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9
    See this -> Quick Convert
    "Convert all or just the selected tracks of the selected Playlist using your choice of available iTunes encoders, restoring your Preferences-set encoder afterwards. Works with importing selected CD tracks, too.

    Additionally, you can:

    copy all converted/imported tracks to a new playlist
    _choose to remove and/or delete the original tracks and/or files_
    if you have selected the AAC encoder you can choose to make the tracks "bookmarkable" and re-add the converted files to the Audiobooks library
  • EricSPeltier Level 1 Level 1
    Chris - will this work on Vista?
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9
    No. Sorry, I didn't see that.

    Do this...

    iTunes prefs -> General.
    Click the *Import settings* button.
    Set the kind & bitrate to what you want.
    Now select Music under Library.
    Select all the songs then right click -> Create AAC version.
    This will take off and convert.

    After it's done, if you wan tot dlete teh 320 kbps files, do this.
    Create a new smart playlist.
    *Match rule*;
    Bitrate contains 320.
    Select this smart playlist, select all the songs.
    Press and hold Shift then press Delete.
    This will delete all the selected songs from the Library.
  • EricSPeltier Level 1 Level 1

    Ah - that looks like a brilliant solution. I had discovered that i could "make AAC" and it would duplicate all my files, but going through my whole ituned folder and deleting the 320 files looked like a chore. I will try this out now.

  • mebpapa Level 1 Level 1
    I want all of my songs in iTunes to be 320 bit. How can I convert 128 bit songs already downloaded into 320 bit songs?
  • mebpapa Level 1 Level 1
    I forgat: all the songs are already converted to AAC.
  • Katrina S. Level 7 Level 7
    You can't get 320 out of 128.
    Buy the CD.

    Message was edited by: Katrina S.
  • mebpapa Level 1 Level 1
    I do own the cd's and wanted to improve the bit rate without having to download them again. I also wanted to know if music downloaded through iTunes could be improved to a higher bit rate without buying the upgrades from iTunes Plus.
  • Buegie Level 6 Level 6
    *The Somewhat Lengthy Answer....*

    Song file size is a factor of bit rate and song length.

    Audio quality is a factor of bit rate and encoding format.

    AAC and MP3 formats are considered Lossy, as they sample the target music file and reduce the total size with some reduction of audio quality. Lossless files are considered CD replicants as they contain all the digital data on the original audio CD. They can be fairly large in comparison to the traditional Lossy file.

    Encoding a music file into a Lossy compression format will strip details from the file.

    IMPORTANT: Transcoding from one Lossy compression format to another Lossy format will compound the loss of details from the file. (eg: transcoding a sound file from: AAC to MP3; or MP3 to AAC). The audio degradation becomes more apparent when transcoding files ripped at lower bit rates (less than 192kbps). This is the same for transcoding one bitrate to another bitrate (but somewhat less when using higher bitrates).

    When you burn an AAC file to CD and then re-rip the CD as AAC or MP3, or use the iTunes ‘Convert’ feature, the sound you end up listening to will have gone through a lossy compression process twice. Those losses can add up, taking what were only mild or even unnoticeable deviations from the original sound after the first phase of compression and making those deviations much more noticeable and objectionable. This is especially true if you try to take music at a low bit rate like 128 kbps (what Apple uses for iTMS) and try to compress back down to the same low bit rate.

    The preferred method is to save all audio "masters" in a Lossless audio format such as Apple Lossless, WAV, AIFF or FLAC (or the original CD), and then transcode directly from the Lossless source file to your preferred Lossy format such as MP3 or AAC. This procedure preserves as much of the original audio signal as possible and prevents the compound loss of audio details from the file.

    The generally accepted theory is that AAC/128 sounds as good as, or better than MP3/160 (and possibly even MP3/192). Transcoding your AACs/MP3s will most likely result in noticeable audio quality degradation. But -- test it out for yourself. If you cannot hear the difference, then it may be acceptable. Bear in mind that any improvements &/or upgrades in equipment (iPods, headphones, your ears, etc.) may uncover the additional audio limitations you created at a later date. And remember: the better a listening device is, the worse the low-bitrate files typically sound.

    See: Spoons Audio Guide

    And AAC v MP3: Part 1 and Part 2 Buegie