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Oberheim emulations / sample CDs

Does anyone know of any Oberheim emulations or sample CDs that are compatible with LP8 / EXS24 / NI Kontakt 3?

Considering that Oberheim sounds were at the heart of so many classic 80s rock tracks (anyone hears Van Halen's 'Jump'? 'Tom Sawyer' by Rush? Plus many more), I'm surprised that the only Oberheim modelled in software appears to be the Sonic Projects OP-X ( http://www.sonicprojects.ch/obx/welcome.html) which I is only available in VST and Reaktor format for PCs.

Does anyone know of anything Mac compatible?

Posted on Dec 17, 2008 11:35 AM

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Dec 17, 2008 1:17 PM in response to Bee Jay

I use a oberheim Matrix 1000 plus mono to stereo uad Roland Dimension D on a dedicated Aux input with great result!....

Also....: Spectrasonics Atmosphere or Ominisphere are the VSTi that can emulate a very similar sound!

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Dec 18, 2008 2:51 PM in response to Andrew Tokuda

I'm sorry--this is assuming you have Reaktor.


I have Reaktor and Oberheim too...

there is no way!... Sorry, but Omnisphere is the best for oberheim emulation... but... it reachs only up to 50% of the RMS sound power if compared!
You need to add a very high compression... but the sound will never be the same!

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Dec 18, 2008 3:08 PM in response to Community User

fermusic wrote:
Oberheim Sounds cannot be emulate...
there is no way... game over 😉

I suggest you to check the sound with a REAL Oberheim expander...


Whatever, dude. I don't care if it doesn't sound like a real Oberheim. I don't care if my virtual Moog synths don't sound like real Moog synths. I don't target my music to people who do listening tests.

The OP posted a link to a company that makes an Oberheim emulator and expressed an interest in a Mac version. The answer is, they do offer a Mac version--as an Ensemble for Reaktor. I tried it, liked it, then commented as such.

fermusic wrote:
Sorry, but Omnisphere is the best for oberheim emulation


What happened to +"Oberheim Sounds cannot be emulate...there is no way...game over?"+

Sorry, everyone, for my tone, but I get irritated by tangential comments.

-droo
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Dec 19, 2008 12:49 AM in response to Robin Johnson

Andrew
Thanks for your feedback. Having spent more time on the Sonic Projects web site listening to the OP-X sounds I am definitely starting to think that the combined cost of Reaktor and OP-X is worth is just for those gorgeous Oberhaim sounds, which I have wanted for years!

One question, though. If I'm going to buy Reaktor, I might as well get value for money and as much out of it as I can. I'm not a hardcore tech-head programmer, so is Reaktor as difficult to get your head round as some people suggest?

fermusic
OK, I take your points on board. But similarly you could say that the NI B4II dosn't sound quite like a REAL Hammond B3, that G-Force MTron Pro doesn't sound quite like a REAL Mellotron, that the IK Multimedia SampleMoog doesn't sound like a REAL Moog... etc etc etc.

But I have a choice here. I could fill all the rooms of my (small!) house with incredibly expensive and famously unreliable REAL vintage gear (that is if I could find working examples of all the keyboards I'd like to try and if an insurance company would touch it with a barge pole).

Alternatively, I can take advantage of this fantastic technology which allows me to have (at the very least) +very close approximations+ of many fantastic vintage keyboard sounds, all taking up just the space of the footprint of a Mac Pro, all at a tiny fraction of the cost and all a ****** site more reliable!

I think it was fairly clear from my original post that I am looking for a software solution to getting some classic Oberheim sounds into my music. From the demos on the Sonic Projects web site I believe OP-X offers that, as does the CD that WallyV recommended. They are certainly close enough to the original for my purposes and I will also take a close look at Omnisphere - given that I am looking for a software, not a hardware, solution.

Keep telling me I need hardware is not the solution to this question. But you can call me a sonic luddite if you like, I don't care! 😉

Thank you for everyone's input.
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Dec 19, 2008 2:03 AM in response to Robin Johnson

Robin Johnson wrote:
Andrew
Thanks for your feedback. Having spent more time on the Sonic Projects web site listening to the OP-X sounds I am definitely starting to think that the combined cost of Reaktor and OP-X is worth is just for those gorgeous Oberhaim sounds, which I have wanted for years!


In all honesty, I've never been a big Reaktor user, however, those OB-X sounds got my attention and gave me all the reason I needed to fire up Reaktor.

One question, though. If I'm going to buy Reaktor, I might as well get value for money and as much out of it as I can. I'm not a hardcore tech-head programmer, so is Reaktor as difficult to get your head round as some people suggest?


If you're not a hardcore programmer, the answer is likely, "yes, it's difficult to get your head around." That's not to say it isn't worth the money. Consider this. As a registered user, you have access to the Reaktor User Library on NI's site. As of this writing, there are 995 synthesizers, 279 samplers, 422 sequencers, 443 effects, and other freely downloadable user-generated Reaktor creations. Of course, quality will vary, given their free-for-all nature, but there's plenty to choose from--they can't all be bad (and they're not). There are user comments and a rating system to help find the good stuff as well.

The point is, you needn't construct your own synths/effects/etc. with Reaktor because there's plenty out there already made for you.

-droo
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Dec 19, 2008 2:26 AM in response to Robin Johnson

Robin Johnson wrote:
fermusic
OK, I take your points on board. But similarly you could say that the NI B4II dosn't sound quite like a REAL Hammond B3, that G-Force MTron Pro doesn't sound quite like a REAL Mellotron, that the IK Multimedia SampleMoog doesn't sound like a REAL Moog... etc etc etc.

But I have a choice here. I could fill all the rooms of my (small!) house with incredibly expensive and famously unreliable REAL vintage gear (that is if I could find working examples of all the keyboards I'd like to try and if an insurance company would touch it with a barge pole).

Alternatively, I can take advantage of this fantastic technology which allows me to have (at the very least) +very close approximations+ of many fantastic vintage keyboard sounds, all taking up just the space of the footprint of a Mac Pro, all at a tiny fraction of the cost and all a ****** site more reliable!

I think it was fairly clear from my original post that I am looking for a software solution to getting some classic Oberheim sounds into my music. From the demos on the Sonic Projects web site I believe OP-X offers that, as does the CD that WallyV recommended. They are certainly close enough to the original for my purposes and I will also take a close look at Omnisphere - given that I am looking for a software, not a hardware, solution.

Keep telling me I need hardware is not the solution to this question. But you can call me a sonic luddite if you like, I don't care! 😉

Thank you for everyone's input.



Please do not misunderstand my words 😉
I have already recommended you Omnisphere ... and my Matrix 1000 has been turned off since Atmosphere/Omnisphere has been installed on my Mac.

I prefer to use software synth too ...

there are other great plugs with a very similar OBX operator sound
Arturia Moog and Moog modular
and now With UAD Moog Multimode filter you can get a very close to OB, Moog or Vintage Analog oscillators sounds!

http://www.uaudio.com/products/software/moogfilter/index.html

About NI... check out for Prophet V... is good too... but dont forget to use good Compressors and Limiter in order to get the correct RMS power!

Good Luck

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Dec 19, 2008 2:54 AM in response to Andrew Tokuda

Andrew Tokuda wrote:
What happened to +"Oberheim Sounds cannot be emulate...there is no way...game over?"+

Sorry, everyone, for my tone, but I get irritated by tangential comments.

-droo


Have you tried to hit and press a Key C1... just one note... on a Real Oberheim?

you will get a Big Big Big sound that don't gives you the needings feel to push up with Volume faders inside your mix and Meters stay down at - 20dB... but the sound is so BIG that always can be easly listened!

NOW
press the same C1 on any software synthy and adjust the parameter to achieve a similar sound....

you Will get a SMALLER .... small .... very little child sound... Check your fader position again and VU Meter dB ammount.

Sorry but this is one of the primary test that must be made to compare the sounds!

G
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