"Mighty Mouse" with MacBook Sucks. Any Recommendatins?

I've been a Mac user for about a year and half now. I've used a Logitech bluetooth "Travel Mouse" with my MacBooks, though the results have always been less that totally satisfactory. The cursor has always had a tendency to "drift" on the screen. The effect seems even less tolerable with my new aluminum 13" MacBook than it was with my prior "black" MacBook.

So Thursday I went to the Apple store and got one of Apple's wireless "Might Mouse" devices. And while the pointing is dead on -- there's no "drift" -- the absence of an actual second click button is positively infuriating.

I guess this design relies on some subtlety of touch to determine when the user intends for his click on the right side of the single "button" to be a left- or a right- click. In my case, it seems to work about 1/3rd of the time. Which is to say, one out of three times that I try to press on the right side of the mouse, I will get the effect I'm actually trying to get, i.e. an actual "right click." The other two times, it's treated like a left click.

The trade off -- accurate pointing for a nearly useless right-click function -- is not worth the trouble. This one is going back to the store. As far as design goes, Mr. Jobs' reluctance to incorporate an actual second mouse button in any of his company's designs demonstrates stubbornness of "epic fail" proportions.

Which leave me wondering... what is a decent brand of Bluetooth mouse to use with a MacBook? When I spoke to somebody at the Apple store, he said that there are "issues" with Logitech Bluetooth products, which I can attest to from my own experience. So, is there any brand of mouse that a) works reliably with the MacBook and b) has TWO buttons instead of one button and one pretend button?

And, ohbytheway, I'm a lefty, so mice designed for right handed people don't work for me either. Unfortunately that narrows the universe of workable products considerably.

Does anybody have a Bluetooth Mouse that works well with their MacBook?

Thanks,

--PS

MacBook 2.4GHz; MacPro 2x3.0GHz Dual Core; iPods, iPhones, Apple TV, Mac OS X (10.5), After 28 years of DOS and Windows... I've come into the light...

Posted on Dec 20, 2008 6:16 AM

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Dec 20, 2008 10:39 AM in response to Douglas McLaughlin

Why not leave the mouse set for a standard click on both buttons and change the "right click" to another button like the scroll ball or the sides? That should differentiate it for you.


I thought about that. The "scroll bar" -- you mean the little ball/wheel in the middle? I need that for another function (open new tabs in a browser, for example). And I thought about the making the "squeeze" buttons on the side into the "right click" function, but that option is not available in the preferences.

I lowered the tracking speed for my Logitech mouse, and that seems to have reduced the "drift" problem some, and I' finding that much more tolerable than the one-out-of-three-or-four right-clicks working. So at the moment Mr. Mighty Mouse is back in the box, and likely to be returned next time I'm in the neighborhood of the Apple store.

--PS

Dec 20, 2008 12:12 PM in response to Paul Schatzkin1

The Apple wireless mighty mouse already has a built in right click, even though there is only one button. All you need to do is (as you have two fingers on your mouse) take your index finger off, and click with your middle finger to the right of the scroll wheel. The mouse will detect that you only had one finger on the mouse and right-click.

Check out this link:
http://showmeprotools.com/apple-mighty-mouse-to-right-click-in-protools/

Dec 20, 2008 8:03 PM in response to Undead Hippies

Undead Hippies wrote:
All you need to do is (as you have two fingers on your mouse) take your index finger off, and click with your middle finger to the right of the scroll wheel. The mouse will detect that you only had one finger on the mouse and right-click.


NOW, that's cool. I've been using the Mighty Mouse for about 3 months now and most of the time when I click on the right (middle finger) it works although every once in a while it ddn't. Guess I had my left finger still on the mouse when it didn't work!

Now my Mighty Mouse just went from being great to BEING GREAT!

THANKS!

Dec 20, 2008 9:49 PM in response to Paul Schatzkin1

I had two Bluetooth rodents that worked just fine with my new MacBook. I thought I'd try the not-so-Mighty MacRodent at an Apple store. Couldn't stand it. It's got to be the least ergonomic, most form-over-function rodent since the hockey-puck (which I didn't like either).

My two existing rodents are an MSI 100 and, ironically, a Microsoft 5000. Scroll wheels, yada, yada, all "just work". Both are optical and actually fit my large paw without being large themselves. Both are symmetrical and being slightly rodent ambidextrous I've used 'em sinister in comfort as well. I just checked and the MS 5000 is available for 3 Hamiltons from my favourite egg-cellent online purveyor.

James

Dec 21, 2008 1:14 AM in response to jgmdean

I have to give the nod to the Mighty Mouse. I've been a MB user now for 360 days (I bought it on Dec 26th last year). I started off with a couple of Logitech Bluetoother's and for the most part, they were fine. However, about every 4th or 5th time I started up my MB from sleep, my mouse couldn't/wouldn't connect in the BT mode. Some times I could coax it to life, but more often than not, I had to do a reboot to bring the Logitech mice back to life.

I tried the Mighty Mouse a couple of times at the Apple Store, but just didn't like the fit. Finally, sick of the Logitech woes, I decided to give the "Mighty" a real test and it hasn't failed me once. Love the feel now except that sometimes I pick it up backward. It's never failed me, it always connects in the BT mode and I highly recommend it to anyone with a Mac. Don't know how it would work with a PC, but I don't care.

And yes, I still use a Logitech mouse, but only with my desktop PC. Someday soon, I'll probably replace the PC with a iMac along with a Mighty for it also.

Dec 21, 2008 2:28 AM in response to Paul Schatzkin1

My favorite mice has always been Logitech Mice. I understand you've had a bad experience with their Bluetooth line, but their 2.4ghz RF Receiver Mice are great. I would suggest a VX Nano or VX Revolution (I have both) and they're quite nice...

That said, the multitouch on this Macbook hasn't had me running for a mouse quite yet. The trackpad is great (Can't say that much for my MSI Wind)...

Jonathan

Dec 21, 2008 9:41 AM in response to JStroud

I'm just not a "track-touch" guy, so I depend on my mouse for faster productivity. Looks like we may be on parallels tracks. I'm getting a Acer Aspire One for Christmas (mainly if not 100% for travel only). One day I expect Apple will have a computer in this size format, but at a much higher cost which wouldn't be worth it to me as a travel machine only.

Have you installed OS X on your MSI Wind? I'm VERY slightly thinking of doing it on the Acer. However, there seems to be a problem using the built-in WiFi with OS X on the Acer. So, I'll probably just leave it alone and go with Windows XP.

Re my Logitech BT mice, they just were not 100% reliable coming out of the sleep mode with my MB. Maybe I'll give one of the ones you have if my Mighty Mouse bites the dust.

Dec 21, 2008 11:12 AM in response to Macaby

The new multi-touch trackpad in the aluminum MacBook is pretty slick, and I can use it more than I could the old style. But when I sit down for a long session of work, I need a real mouse.

Right now the Mighty Mouse is back in the box, but I might give it another try. I just have to figure out what this means:

All you need to do is (as you have two fingers on your mouse) take your index finger off, and click with your middle finger to the right of the scroll wheel. The mouse will detect that you only had one finger on the mouse and right-click.


So, let's see, in order to "right click" with a Mighty Mouse, you have to have two fingers on the mouse all the time? Except when you want to right click? Weird, but I'll try it.

Thanks,

--PS

Dec 21, 2008 12:57 PM in response to Macaby

I definitely agree that a mouse is the way to go when it comes to speed and precision, especially for long hours of work. I guess I was just making note that the multi-touch trackpad hasn't had me running for a mouse yet, in comparison to my MSI Wind, which I can't stand to use without the mouse. I guess the ability to use Expose plus two finger scroll right on the trackpad makes things very nice.

I forgot to mention this in the other post, but the "issue" you may have with the 2.4GHZ Logitech Mice, is that they require a dongle to be plugged into the USB port, making it look a little unsightly. The VX Nano has a really tiny one you can leave in the USB port all of the time, but it still sticks out a little, probably 3mm or so. You can stick it back in the mouse when you're done, but you have to open the battery cover. The VX Revolution's Receiver is about an inch long, but it stores away nicely in the mouse when you're done with it. It has a little slot to plug it into, which turns off the mouse as well. If you don't care about that, then its definitely worth a try.

Do you also happen to know if you were using an Optical or Laser mouse? I haven't had too much issue with either of them, but the VX line I mentioned above all use Laser tracking. Supposedly Laser gives better accuracy. If you don't want the unsightly receivers, they may make a "Laser" mouse that also uses Bluetooth as well... maybe something to look into.

Anyway, I did install OS X on the MSI Wind. I had a spare Dell Wireless 1500 around (stole it from my other Dell), that uses a wireless chipset that OS X supports, so it worked perfectly fine and as a fully functional OS X machine. That is, until I upgraded to 10.5.6...

Are you sure you're already getting an Acer Aspire One? If possible, you should check out the Wind if you plan on using a mouse most of the time. There is already a straight MSI Wind install for OSX, that has just about everything you need, making it very simple to load OS X... If you do indeed get the Aspire One for X-Mas, its a great netbook as well. I don't know if its possible on the Aspire One to change the Wireless Chip, but if you do, it sounds like you can get it running OS X with no problem.

Dec 28, 2008 9:33 AM in response to Paul Schatzkin1

In a month or two, how about posting how reliable your Logitech BT mouse is? As I mentioned above, I used a Logitech for about 8 months before tossing in the towel. Every once in a while when coming out of sleep mode, the computer failed to bond with the mouse.

IF I had the touch pad enabled, sometimes by opening the dropdown BT menu, I could engage the mouse. And it always engaged from a cold boot. The problem with doing the cold boot is that I had no pointer to shut the computer down normally, so I had to do a "crash" shutdown. I had 2 Logitech BT mice that did the same thing. The reason I had no pointer was because I had the touch pad turned off when a mouse was "present" and I guess even though my mouse didn't work, it was considered "present".

Dec 28, 2008 11:39 AM in response to Macaby

Presently, the Logitech is working just fine, though I am familiar with the issue you site -- in the year and a half I've been using MacBooks I think it's happened two or three times. Sometimes the mouse can be slow to connect after a wake-from-sleep, but even that is preferable to a "right click" function that only works like one out of three or four times.

I always leave touch pad enabled, and often switch between mouse and touch pad. So if the mouse is slow or fails to connect, I've still got sufficient function to recover.

But I'll try to remember to check in again few weeks or months with another update.

Thanks,

--PS

Dec 29, 2008 4:49 PM in response to Paul Schatzkin1

If you do want a double click mouse, I found that the Razer Pro|Click Mobile Notebook Mouse is quite nice (Even comes in 4 colours)

No drivers required so don't have any hassle and its quite affordable from my view.

Only draw back is that it runs on AA batteries (if you are the type that wants rechargeable ones Logitech and one Targus is what I know of so far) and that it has very basic mouse buttons (just left and right click with the scroll and scroll click)

But all in all, I would recommend it.

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