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Bad motherboard, right?

I'm 99% sure this is a "bad motherboard, replace it" situation but I'm posting this just in the off-chance that someone has a better explanation.

A friend of mine has an 867MHz Titanium PowerBook G4 running OS X 10.5. Recently she's been experiencing weird problems including the temporary loss of trackpad and/or mouse functionality, and a video distortion problem. I zeroed out her hard drive, reset the NVRAM, clean-installed and then updated 10.5. About an hour or so after sitting idle, doing ABSOLUTELY nothing, the screen went all wacky:

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The computer is still perfectly functional other than the video issue. You can sort of see that I've got Software Update running in the screen shot. The screen grab above was taken via Remote Desktop; not only was the video on the TiBook distorted, but the video via Remote Desktop was identically distorted.

Bad motherboard, right?

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Posted on Dec 25, 2008 10:41 AM

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Dec 25, 2008 12:47 PM in response to ÜberMacHead

I don't know the answer to your question, but I have a 6 year old PB 1GHz Ti
and it began to exhibit the same intermittent display distortion a month or so
ago. The computer functions well otherwise. As it is nearing it's useful life for
my purposes, I just brought a unibody MBP. I wasn't about to spend a penny on
any repairs for the old girl and not knowing what the problem was, I didn't
want to wait until it died completely before preparing my substitute.
But, as I say it's an intermittent problem and I can see no obvious trigger.

Dec 26, 2008 4:29 PM in response to ÜberMacHead

Hi, UM. IF the logic board is fine, then either the problem resides somewhere downstream from it (in the video cable or the LCD panel), or it's a software problem. I have no experience with Apple Remote Desktop, but I surmise that if the same anomalies appear on a remote computer as on the Powerbook's built-in display, that indicates the same thing it would indicate if you were seeing those anomalies on a second display connected directly to the PB. Connecting a second display directly to the PB would provide a direct test whose results I could interpret more confidently: if a second display shows the same problem when used in mirrored mode, neither the built-in video cable nor the built-in LCD panel is at fault, and the problem must be in the logic board or in software. Starting the machine up from another volume (one that is known not to be corrupt in the sme way as the intenal drive may be) would then tell the tale: if the anomalies persist on both monitors when the PB is started up from a known-good bootable volume, there's a hardware problem, and a problem that causes this kind of video disturbances could only be on the logic board.

Dec 28, 2008 8:33 PM in response to ÜberMacHead

It sounds like this might happen when the board warms up. I'm wondering if you might actually have a BGA failure--i.e. the chip itself may test out OK, but the ball grid array which solders it to the logic board may be failing. Just a guess on my part. It's hard to believe that a graphics chip with this much distortion wouldn't produce an error code.

Do you get the same distortion when booted from a disc?

Dec 29, 2008 1:05 PM in response to S.U.

It doesn't appear to be heat related. I've had the computer running virtually 24/7 for the last several days and there's no apparent trigger for the screen distortion. I've had it come up on a reboot after the computer was left on for several hours, after the computer was running for 5 minutes (on both a warm and cold start), after beating the processor and GPU with OpenGL-enabled screen savers, and with the computer doing absolutely nothing.

The distortion did not appear when I was booted from the OS X installation disc to reinstall the OS, or when I was booted from the Hardware Test CD, or when I was booted from the TechTool Deluxe CD. The only time I've seen it happen was when I was booted from the hard drive. I don't know that this adds anything to the equation though since it's been on the hard drive a lot longer than on the CD.

Bad motherboard, right?

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