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  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)
    If the edges of the MBP are as problematical for many other people as they are for you, rest assured that some enterprising third party will soon offer an add-on product to remedy the defect in Apple's design. And if that doesn't happen, you can draw your own conclusion about how many users are seriously harmed or hindered by the MBP's edges.
  • pbandmacs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    thank you, eww...I'm not alone, hours online did lead me to the conclusion that this is a common experience with the MBP. I do hope Apple will change the design in the future, and that some add-on product will appear in the meantime. Some enterprising first parties are trying to fix the problem by using packing foam, tape, filing the edges, purchasing covers, wearing sports wristbands...all seem silly but whatever it takes to take the edge off...literally.
  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)
    The only step needed to "take the edge off" is to raise the back edge of the machine an inch or so above the front edge, which puts the keyboard in a more ergonomically correct position for typing, in addition to getting the hands and wrists away from the front edge. Some of those enterprising "first parties" may have sufficient ingenuity to pull this off, even when using their MBPs on their laps. It's not rocket science.
  • improwise Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I completely agree with pbandmacs, you could arguee all you want about how to use the trackpad keyboard but the fact still remains, the edge is much sharper than it should be, and I find it hard to imagine something that we would miss by making it less sharp. It doesnt have to be completely rounded or anything, just not so sharp as to hurt ones hands and wrister. I still love my MBP, but the fact remains, this IS as design flaw no matter what!
  • jlcochran1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I agree. I seldom use my laptop at a desk. I have desktops for that. Purchased for the flexibility of using in various locations, postures, etc. Right now I am in a recliner. Have 10 computers at home, combination of PC and Mac, desktops and several laptops. I have never used a machine with edges this sharp and have scratched my wrist on more than one occasion. I also have been very surprised and disappointed with the sharp edges. As an engineer I know how easy it would have been to correct this in the 3D model at the design stage. Especially since this was machined from solid aluminum. I have adapted and since ordered a 2nd Macbook Pro for my wife. Not a deal killer, just a frustrating design oversight on an otherwise well engineered machine. Hopefully a small perimeter fillet or chamfer on the base leading edge will be included in future design iterations. It is a simple change that would make a good product even better.
  • improwise Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    This is kind of a downside of the "apple fan culture" I think, that some people seem to be stuck in an "emperors new clothes" loop, where everyone making some kind of complaint against an apple product is called a deviant. The fact that apple still hasn't gotten around to do anything about this problem even on newer MBPs (mine is a week old) is just bad. And I think it shows kind of a disrespect for the customers, as this is such an obvious problem, and also one that should have an obvious solution. Then you could discuss how much of a problem it is, but still, it's so not necessary for the problem to exist....
  • improwise Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just a thought, could there perhaps be a case where the grinding process wasn't 100% perfect, so that different MBPs actually had different sharpness to them, thus describing why the problem is considered more or less of a real world problem? Of course, there are several other factors involved as well, but still. Escpecially the "hole" which you use to open up the lid has 2 VERY sharp corners at each end, these are actually razer sharp, even though their position means that you wont touch them that often.
  • Marcus Hale Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Absolutely agree. Ridiculous design flaw. No possible reason for it. Silly stuff. I use my laptop all over the world for which laptops are designed. I am a documentary film maker, and why gram conscious travellers should carry further equipment to compensate for it? NEVER MIND.
    Some people say attacking the thing with files, grinders, sandpaper etc may engender warrantee issues at some point.
    I have simply stuck some black electrical tape along the edge with a double layer on the side I most use my scratch pad hand, where like, you I get deep red welts on my wrists and palm.
    I still get the welts but its definitely not as sharp and more comfortable. I bevelled the ends of the tape carefully with a box cutter to make it look a little more attractive so it ends in points and at a casual glance looks like its almost meant to be there. Having to do that on the most expensive laptop I could buy seems a little silly but there you have it.
  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)
    Yes — as has been posted several times above, simply raising the back edge of the MBP completely solves the "problem" by getting your wrists out of contact with the edge. No need to spend $15 on anything, though: I just rest the back edge of my MBP on an old Art Gum pencil eraser. A little block of wood, an old mouse, or any of dozens of other things you might have lying around will work just as well.
  • Habitat Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    It just looks a little better than a block of wood though lol
  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)
    My eraser looks really terrific to me, because instead of costing $15, it cost a nickel about 55 years ago — and will probably last 55 more before it needs to be replaced. Of course I never see it, because it's under my computer, and the same would be true of a block of wood 1" x 1" x 1". And of course your AC adapter is just the right height, too.
  • Habitat Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I guess to each his own right
  • Pubikars Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    edit.

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  • likeitis Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I find it sad and baffling that so many users of this forum seem to have the immature need to ridicule and doubt other users who are having a sincere problem with the sharp edges on the new unibody macs. To robotically repeat ad nauseam the same tired solutions that don't address key aspects of that problem indicates that these responders didn't care to read the details of the prior posts. If it wasn't a real issue, film producers and professional writers (of which I am one), who have used laptops for decades without ever experiencing such difficulties, would not be wasting their time here.

    Specifically, while raising the back of the Macbook Pro addresses typing, it does not address doing hours of internet research and surfing, image manipulation, or other trackpad-intensive tasks, especially on a couch or lounge chair. The outstanding versatility of the new trackpad makes it possible to accomplish a remarkable number of tasks without use of the keyboard, making this issue even more vital than it might otherwise be.

    When using the trackpad, it is natural to rest the outer portion of one's hand against the sharp front edge of the computer, and over time this is irritating to many of us. To have to try to remember to perfectly position one's hand in some new special way so as to avoid touching an overly sharp edge is unequivically a design flaw. The fact that a google search returns blog posts about uncomfortably sharp edges on various Macbooks dating back at least to 2006 indicates a significant, ongoing blind spot in Apple's ergonomic engineers. As is mentioned below, even Macworld suggested a fix for the problem.

    As for solutions, it is interesting that one poster in this thread stated that the best solutions he has seen have all been deleted by the moderator. Perhaps they involved fine sandpaper or other approaches considered potentially damaging to the machine. A few possible solutions I have found, but not yet tried are:
    1. Several layers of black electrical tape (or a clear thick tapes available at Home Depot) placed over the edges, carefully cut to symmetrically line up with the black keyboard.
    2. A palmpad that is moved slightly back away from the screen so that it goes over the sharp edge just enough to cushion it. Macworld reported this as a fix to the macbook sharp edge problem in a 2006 article here: http://www.macworld.com/article/52027/2006/07/softpads.html. Unfortunately the Ava softpad they recommend seems hard to find. The Moshe Palmguard ones, which are specifically made for unibody macs, are available here: http://www.aevoe.com/shop/moshi.asp?PDLS1=21. But they don’t look quite as thick as the Softpad, so it is hard to say if they would be adequate. Perhaps two layers of them could be used.
    3. Here is a more unsightly, but cheap solution: http://www.doublesquids.net/coffeeblog/archive/freedbac.html.
    4. For the sake of a complete list, one version of the oft-mentioned keyboard raising solution, which primarily helps for typing only, is here: http://www.bluelounge.com/coolfeet.php.

    Best of luck to everyone seeking a comfortable Macbook experience.
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