14 Replies Latest reply: Mar 16, 2009 2:10 PM by PeterBreis0807
craigpuremac Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi Guys,

This is driving me up the wall, I have iWork '09 and in the Paragraph Styles section, when I click Heading 2 it automatically generates a new heading style called Heading 3, all the way up to 9.

If I try and delete the heading, the delete button is grayed out.

Is this a bug or a feature? How do I fix it, stop it. I just want a couple of styles called Heading.

Macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.6), iWork 09
  • Ashka Level 4 Level 4 (3,775 points)
    Click on the page and click the heading then start typing. The Heading and body fonts will reflect what you used the first time or default.

    If you don't like the set font & size:
    Type a few letters in the font & point size you want for Heading 1 and select it. When your curser is over Heading 1 a drop down arrow appears to the right. I used "Redefine Heading from Selection" and Heading 1 changed to the font and size I selected.

    Click on body font which can be reset in the same way to continue.

    Another paragraph and I want Heading 1 again just click on it and the font and size change from the body font back to the Heading 1 font. Set up a different Heading 2 & 3 if you what to.
    Easier to do than explain
  • Ashka Level 4 Level 4 (3,775 points)
    Limited edit time
    Resetting the Heading or any other set paragraph styles also includes the alignment (left, right, justified etc) Indent and any other formatting change you can think of.

    I think of paragraph styles as quick change font keys and I also don't have to remember exactly what I used for Heading 4 last week.

    Delete the text you were typing when you set the extra 6 Headings and they will disappear as they are set to that text. Apple does give you a spare one just in case you need it ~
    Have fun

    Message was edited by: Ashka
  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,935 points)
    G'day Craig,

    You are right I just tried it, and every heading you select it adds another level!

    This one goes on the bugs report, which is steadily growing now.

    Please report at:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html

    Just mentioning it here is not enough.
  • craigpuremac Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks, I've sent the problem to apple using the link.
  • schilfgras Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    I think this is rather a feature. Why should It be a bug? I would consider this as a convenient "auto-generate-next- header-style". Or did I miss the actual bug?
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    If I remember well what I saw in the templates (iWork '08), the heading styles (1 to 9) are predefined but they are only displayed if required.
    When you click Heading x, the program assumes that you need the Heading x+1 and display it.

    No bug, just a feature

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 19 janvier 2009 19:28:29)
  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,935 points)
    What an odd "feature", which has wasted all of our time.

    Why on Earth would you want it to generate yet another layer of headings just because you are implementing an existing one?

    Does it do the same for every other style such as body text? No.
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    My memory failed.
    The predefined heading styles are dedicated to TOC. They are four in the Blank template.

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 19 janvier 2009 21:04:52)
  • Matthew Bergsma Level 3 Level 3 (600 points)
    +1 on this as a feature I would like to TURN OFF.

    I am trying to setup templates for non designer type people to use and this is annoying - At least let us delete these styles... Please apple.
  • owdagl Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I guess it might be something to do with the outline mode – the new style it creates is indented to the next level but this is really annoying me also, has anyone found a fix?
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    _Go to "Provide Pages Feedback" in the "Pages" menu_, describe what you wish.
    Then, cross your fingers, and wait _at least_ for iWork'10

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 16 février 2009 18:14:35)
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    Looking in the internals of the templates, I found the descriptors of these "Heading" style (which are named "Sous-section" in French.

    Here is one of these descriptors:

    <sf:paragraphstyle sf:name="Sous-section 1" sf:ident="paragraph-style-35">
    <sf:property-map>
    <sf:defaultTabStops>
    <sf:number sfa:number="35.43307" sfa:type="f"/>
    </sf:defaultTabStops>
    <sf:firstTopicNumber/>
    <sf:tabs/>
    <sf:leftIndent/>
    <sf:paragraphFill>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:paragraphFill>
    <sf:lineSpacing/>
    <sf:italic/>
    <sf:baselineShift/>
    <sf:outlineStyleType>
    <sf:number sfa:number="2" sfa:type="i"/>
    </sf:outlineStyleType>
    <sf:tocStyle>
    *<sf:tocstyle-ref sfa:IDREF="SLTOCParagraphStyle-1"/>*
    </sf:tocStyle>
    <sf:fontName>
    <sf:string sfa:string="Helvetica-Bold"/>
    </sf:fontName>
    <sf:fontColor/>
    <sf:rightIndent/>
    <sf:textBackground>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:textBackground>
    <sf:outlineLevel>
    <sf:number sfa:number="0" sfa:type="i"/>
    </sf:outlineLevel>
    <sf:strikethru/>
    <sf:outline/>
    <sf:dropCap/>
    <sf:listStyle>
    <sf:liststyle-ref sfa:IDREF="SFWPListStyle-0"/>
    </sf:listStyle>
    <sf:textShadow/>
    <sf:capitalization/>
    <sf:ligatures/>
    <sf:keepWithNext>
    <sf:number sfa:number="1" sfa:type="c"/>
    </sf:keepWithNext>
    <sf:keepLinesTogether/>
    <sf:strikethruWidth/>
    <sf:widowControl/>
    <sf:word_underline/>
    <sf:followingParagraphStyle>
    <sf:paragraphstyle-ref sfa:IDREF="SFWPParagraphStyle-0"/>
    </sf:followingParagraphStyle>
    <sf:superscript/>
    <sf:paragraphBorderType/>
    <sf:spaceBefore/>
    <sf:firstLineIndent/>
    <sf:bold>
    <sf:number sfa:number="1" sfa:type="c"/>
    </sf:bold>
    <sf:showInTOC>
    *<sf:number sfa:number="1" sfa:type="c"/>*
    </sf:showInTOC>
    <sf:paragraphRuleWidth/>
    <sf:fontSize>
    <sf:number sfa:number="18" sfa:type="f"/>
    </sf:fontSize>
    <sf:hidden/>
    <sf:underline/>
    <sf:hyphenate/>
    <sf:word_strikethrough/>
    <sf:paragraphRuleOffset/>
    <sf:outlineColor>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:outlineColor>
    <sf:spaceAfter/>
    <sf:language>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:language>
    <sf:tracking/>
    <sf:decimalTab/>
    <sf:strikethruColor>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:strikethruColor>
    <sf:atsuFontFeatures/>
    <sf:pageBreakBefore/>
    <sf:kerning/>
    <sf:paragraphStroke>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:paragraphStroke>
    <sf:underlineColor>
    <sf:null/>
    </sf:underlineColor>
    <sf:underlineWidth/>
    <sf:alignment/>
    </sf:property-map>
    </sf:paragraphstyle>

    I highlighted in bold ttwo items showing that these styles are linked to TOC.

    I tried to remove the descriptor and sure, the program failed to use the beast.

    So, my guess is that you will have to live with them.

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 16 mars 2009 21:32:27)
  • JacksterD Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    There's no way this should be classed as a feature. It's really annoying me.

    I can't see any reasonable use for this 'feature'.
  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,935 points)
    Tell Apple, I have.