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Dear all

Am in the UK. Work for National Health Service (along with another 1.4 million so not a small entity!)

In its wisdom the mail system that many of us use is changing to MS web Outlook.

Under the old system I could get messages via POP3 or IMAP onto both my MacBook Pro and iPhone. Worked great.

Post migration there's been a major step back. Things will work if logged in via the secure separate NHS N3 network but not via the internet unless using windows and internet explorer. Only possible Apple option is a cut down web version.

I have found that I can however access it using iPhone (with appropriate security) using MS Exchange server. Works fine.

Can't do the same even with same settings using MBP.

Why would one work and not the other?

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Dermot

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Jan 26, 2009 11:51 AM

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46 replies

Mar 17, 2009 1:42 AM in response to Dermot O'Riordan

Having just been migrated across to the new exchange platform, my thanks to previous posters for advice on the Beta program. However, for those that follow, a few words of caution and advice, based on reconfiguring Entourage on my two home machines.

1. Although the Beta program indicates they will reply within 48 hours, mine took a week. I suggest patience since the mac BU team is likely being deluged by NHS mac users who have found this thread.
2. It can take several minutes (I'd guess about 5) for Entourage to detect the correct settings after entering you email address, give it time before thinking it hasn't worked.
3. Read the installation pdf that comes with the Beta BEFORE installing it. I had a scary moment when after launching Entourage it had lost all my other accounts and saved emails. The installer does create a new main identity folder so you can import all your old emails. It would be prudent though to back up your main identity folder.
4. Even after importing your old identity, Entourage didn't seem to have imported my Junk mail training since it decided several hundred of my NHS mails were junk. I do have my protection level set to High so this may not apply if you are not using this degree of filtering. This moves any 'suspect' messages in your NHS mailbox into the Junk folder. If your email is organised into folders, this isn't very helpful since it's time consuming to put them back into the right folders. I suggest making @nhs.net an always accepted domain to minimise the erroneous junking of mail. In retrospect and in future, I could have done this before enabling the exchange account.
5. If you are using POP for any other accounts, after importing my old identities, Entourage re-downloaded all the messages that had been left on the server resulting in several days of duplicate unread messages to filter and remove. This will only apply if you are using POP mail with the 'leave message on the server' option.

It took about 2 hours to install the Beta then sort out all the junk mail and duplicate mail problems. It has been worth it though to have my NHS mail back at home. Interestingly compare that to the 2 minutes to add the new account to my iphone!

Mar 17, 2009 3:59 PM in response to eHealth

Might as well add my experience, as it may reflect the position a lot of people are in. I've not been an Entourage user, instead favouring Apple Mail and iCal. If you've never used Entourage, setting up NHS mail is completely trouble-free using the Beta release. I have added in my other IMAP accounts, and will hopefully complete the process by importing my calendars. My eventual aim is to move my iCal calendars onto the NHS.net server, which may be a little trickier. No problems to report so far though...

Mar 23, 2009 2:20 PM in response to stevenjrowan

Hi Steven,
Access to NHS.net email via entourage is only possible via an NHS.net connection and then you will be limited to IMAP/POP connections. The big leap forward to Outlook Web has been a giant leap backwards for me as it has cut off both my mac and my blackberry. I'm contemplating forming a pressure group pushing for better access to the service.
Best wishes
Sam

Mar 23, 2009 11:36 PM in response to SamuelRodgers

Hi Sam. As a Mac fan, I am pleased to say that you aren't correct about getting your mail on a mac. You can access your migrated NHS mail on any internet connection using the Entourage Beta which talks fully to an Exchange server and not via IMAP/POP. If you read the full thread above, you will find out how to do it. Wishing you luck. John

Mar 26, 2009 11:49 PM in response to Tony Wright

Completed my migration to Entourage without any problems. NHS.net now hosts my email, calendars and contacts. I migrated the calendars across from iCal using Entourage sync services. I did the same with my contacts in Address Book. Over the air syncing with my iphone works very quickly and smoothly (changes made to calendar items in Entourage appear on my iphone almost immediately!)

If anyone wants detailed instructions on the above, let me know.

It seems likely to me that Apple Mail, iCal and Address Book will gain Exchange 2007 functionality at some point, and when that happens, I'll switch straight back again...

Mar 31, 2009 5:46 AM in response to vegasbaby

i have managed to access my nhs email via entourage following the instructions in this thread (many thanks for all the useful comments)

However, I dont seem to be able to access the global address book which is visible when i am in outlook at work - i can only see my own personal contacts in entourage. i have changed the port to 636 as described above, but to no avail.

Am I missing something - if someone could email me the settings for the directory I would be very grateful
regards
steven

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