Goodbye Safari - life isn't long enough to untangle your ills
Safari crashes and hangs are truly Applelike - astonishing creativity. I've spent way too much time doing "everything" to bring stability. Enough. Somebody let me know if and when a decent build is released. Until then...
What maintenance have you performed on your Mac? " I've spent way too much time doing "everything" to bring stability"
It only takes a few minutes to run a program like
Onyx for Leopard use the Maintenance and Cleaning scripts once a week.
Are you repairing permissions? Checking the hard disk for errors? It's all related in one way or another whether it's an internet browser or any other app you run on your Mac.
Dennis - don't mean to cross post but I JUST solved my Safari crash problems - Sounds like we were sharing the same frustration. Here is what I did to get back-up and running using Safari, if you wanna check it out, I posted it on the following thread, follow the link and scroll down to find my post. Hope it helps or provides some insight. Good Luck.
I use Macaroni for automated maintenance. Following suggestions in these discussions, I've removed pref files, cookies, catches, plugins, etc. Reset Safari. Did exhaustive uninstall of every tiny bit of Safari (history files, bookmarks, you name it), then did clean install, always use the latest version. Used Disk Utility, Diskwarrior to rebuild volumes. Did a archive and install of OS 10.5. Disabled third party programs. Made sure everything I could find was the latest such as plugins - Java, Realplayer, Flip4Mac WMV, so on. Since both my office intel MacBook and my home mini face Safari instability, I'm guessing some third party program is the culprit. I use a number of programs that are not very mainstream.
I'm not willing to do a clean install and go through all the pain of adding one by one every little program and plugin, setting back up the network and so on. Safari isn't that valuable! Firefox works well enough for me, and I appreciate its extensibility.
I've spent hours and hours on all this. I'm just not willing to give this more time. Look at all the posts regarding Safari crashes. There's some problems with the code, clearly. When Apple can get to it, I'm confident they'll fix things. I'll be back then.
There's always Firefox! LOL Hey, we understand your frustration. But the complaints you see for Safari on this forum is less than 1% of the Safari users world wide. That's why we stress maintenance for your Mac as well as the Safari app itself.
"I use a number of programs that are not very mainstream."
Dennis -- You said
I'm guessing some third party program is the culprit. I use a number of programs that are not very mainstream.
As Los Angeles mentioned in his linked post,
I would check your Internet Plug-ins.
Let us know what's there, please.
Safari top menu > Help > Installed plugins
Considering this is the forum for posting problems and questions about Safari, what were you expecting 😉
If you want, post a crash report and we might be able to spot the problem.
Otherwise, enjoy Firefox. You might want to try [Camino|www.caminobrowser.org] as well - this shares the same rendering engine as Firefox but the interface is more 'Mac-like'.
Accordance, Adeona, Covenant Eyes, Notebook, Palm Hotsync (ugg), RocketFM, Final Vinyl, SpamSieve, Ultralingua, to name a few. Then stuff like Macally imediakey, Kensington Mouseworks, Hawkin Wireless utility app, Acidsearch plugin (a suspect plugin- but didn't make a difference). All the regulars - iLife, iWork, Office 2004, 2008, Quicken, Photoshop, InDesign,
Shockwave for Director
Macromedia Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 10.1.1 — from file “NP-PPC-Dir-Shockwave”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/x-director Shockwave Movie dcr,dir,dxr
Adobe Acrobat and Reader Plug-in
Adobe Acrobat and Reader Plug-in for Web Browsers, Version 8.1.0 — from file “AdobePDFViewer.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf
application/vnd.adobe.pdf Acrobat Portable Document Format (Interim) pdf
application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml FormFlow99 Data File xfd
application/vnd.adobe.x-mars Acrobat XML Portable Document Format mars
application/pdf Acrobat Portable Document Format pdf
application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml XML Data Package xdp
application/vnd.adobe.xfdf Acrobat Forms Data Format in XML xfdf
Quartz Composer Plug-In
Web Kit plug-in that renders Quartz compositions. — from file “Quartz Composer.webplugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/x-quartzcomposer Quartz Composition qtz
iPhotoPhotocast
iPhoto6 — from file “iPhotoPhotocast.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/photo iPhoto 600
Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.2
The Flip4Mac WMV Plugin allows you to view Windows Media content using QuickTime. — from file “Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media Playlist wax
video/x-ms-wm Windows Media Video wm
audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media Audio wma
application/asx Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media Video wmv
video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media Playlist wvx
application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-asf Windows Media Video asf
video/x-ms-wmx Windows Media Playlist wmx
video/x-ms-asf-plugin Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media Video wmp
video/x-ms-asx Windows Media Playlist asx
Flip4Mac Windows Media Web Plugin 2.2
The Flip4Mac WMV Plugin allows you to view Windows Media content using QuickTime. — from file “Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.webplugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media Playlist wvx
application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-asx Windows Media Playlist asx
video/x-ms-wm Windows Media Video wm
audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media Audio wma
application/asx Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media Video wmv
application/x-oleobject Overrides the Windows Media Active X Control
video/x-ms-asf Windows Media Video asf
video/x-ms-wmx Windows Media Playlist wmx
video/x-ms-asf-plugin Windows Media Plugin
video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media Video wmp
audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media Playlist wax
Java Plug-in for Cocoa
Java Switchable Plug-in (Cocoa) — from file “JavaPluginCocoa.bundle”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 Java applet
application/x-java-jnlp-file JNLP Applications jnlp
application/x-java-applet;version=1.5 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_16 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 Java applet
application/x-java-applet Basic Java Applets javaapplet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 Java applet
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 Java applet
Verified Download Plugin
Verified Download Plugin — from file “VerifiedDownloadPlugin.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
Shockwave Flash
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r12 — from file “Flash Player.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf
application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl
QuickTime Plug-In 7.6
The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site. — from file “QuickTime Plugin.webplugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
audio/x-mp3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
audio/x-m4a AAC audio m4a
video/x-m4v Video (protected) m4v
image/x-jpeg2000-image JPEG2000 image jp2
video/flc AutoDesk Animator (FLC) flc,fli,cel
image/x-png PNG image png
image/x-sgi SGI image sgi,rgb
image/x-bmp BMP image bmp,dib
audio/x-m4p AAC audio (protected) m4p
image/jp2 JPEG2000 image jp2
audio/x-midi MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/x-mpeg3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
audio/3gpp2 3GPP2 media 3g2,3gp2
audio/mp4 MPEG-4 media mp4
video/sd-video SD video sdv
audio/ac3 AC3 audio ac3
video/3gpp 3GPP media 3gp,3gpp
audio/mpeg MPEG audio mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
video/x-mpeg MPEG media mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
audio/basic uLaw/AU audio au,snd,ulw
audio/mp3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
application/x-sdp SDP stream descriptor sdp
audio/mpeg3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
video/quicktime QuickTime Movie mov,qt,mov,qt,mqv
video/msvideo Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/midi MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
image/x-macpaint MacPaint image pntg,pnt,mac
image/x-targa TGA image targa,tga
audio/x-mpeg MPEG audio mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
audio/x-m4b AAC audio book m4b
image/pict PICT image pict,pic,pct
image/x-quicktime QuickTime image qtif,qti
audio/x-gsm GSM audio gsm
audio/x-wav WAVE audio wav,bwf
video/mpeg MPEG media mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
video/x-msvideo Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/x-caf CAF audio caf
application/x-mpeg AMC media amc
audio/x-aiff AIFF audio aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
image/png PNG image png
image/x-pict PICT image pict,pic,pct
video/3gpp2 3GPP2 media 3g2,3gp2
audio/wav WAVE audio wav,bwf
application/sdp SDP stream descriptor sdp
audio/aiff AIFF audio aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
image/jpeg2000-image JPEG2000 image jp2
audio/mid MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/amr AMR audio amr
application/x-rtsp RTSP stream descriptor rtsp,rts
audio/x-aac AAC audio aac,adts
image/tiff TIFF image tif,tiff
image/x-tiff TIFF image tif,tiff
audio/3gpp 3GPP media 3gp,3gpp
audio/aac AAC audio aac,adts
video/avi Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/vnd.qcelp QUALCOMM PureVoice audio qcp,qcp
audio/x-ac3 AC3 audio ac3
video/mp4 MPEG-4 media mp4
image/jpeg2000 JPEG2000 image jp2
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6
The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site. — from file “QuickTime Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
audio/x-mp3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
audio/x-m4a AAC audio m4a
video/x-m4v Video (protected) m4v
image/x-jpeg2000-image JPEG2000 image jp2
video/flc AutoDesk Animator (FLC) flc,fli,cel
image/x-png PNG image png
image/x-sgi SGI image sgi,rgb
image/x-bmp BMP image bmp,dib
audio/x-m4p AAC audio (protected) m4p
image/jp2 JPEG2000 image jp2
audio/x-midi MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/x-mpeg3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
audio/3gpp2 3GPP2 media 3g2,3gp2
audio/mp4 MPEG-4 media mp4
video/sd-video SD video sdv
audio/ac3 AC3 audio ac3
video/3gpp 3GPP media 3gp,3gpp
audio/mpeg MPEG audio mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
video/x-mpeg MPEG media mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
audio/basic uLaw/AU audio au,snd,ulw
audio/mp3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
application/x-sdp SDP stream descriptor sdp
audio/mpeg3 MP3 audio mp3,swa
video/quicktime QuickTime Movie mov,qt,mov,qt,mqv
video/msvideo Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/midi MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
image/x-macpaint MacPaint image pntg,pnt,mac
image/x-targa TGA image targa,tga
audio/x-mpeg MPEG audio mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
audio/x-m4b AAC audio book m4b
image/pict PICT image pict,pic,pct
image/x-quicktime QuickTime image qtif,qti
audio/x-gsm GSM audio gsm
audio/x-wav WAVE audio wav,bwf
video/mpeg MPEG media mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
video/x-msvideo Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/x-caf CAF audio caf
application/x-mpeg AMC media amc
audio/x-aiff AIFF audio aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
image/png PNG image png
image/x-pict PICT image pict,pic,pct
video/3gpp2 3GPP2 media 3g2,3gp2
audio/wav WAVE audio wav,bwf
application/sdp SDP stream descriptor sdp
audio/aiff AIFF audio aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
image/jpeg2000-image JPEG2000 image jp2
audio/mid MIDI mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/amr AMR audio amr
application/x-rtsp RTSP stream descriptor rtsp,rts
audio/x-aac AAC audio aac,adts
image/tiff TIFF image tif,tiff
image/x-tiff TIFF image tif,tiff
audio/3gpp 3GPP media 3gp,3gpp
audio/aac AAC audio aac,adts
video/avi Video For Windows (AVI) avi,vfw
audio/vnd.qcelp QUALCOMM PureVoice audio qcp,qcp
audio/x-ac3 AC3 audio ac3
video/mp4 MPEG-4 media mp4
image/jpeg2000 JPEG2000 image jp2
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin — from file “RealPlayer Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type Description Extensions
audio/x-pn-realaudio RealPlayer Metafile ram
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealMedia rm
I'd guess that's caused by AcidSearch in this case. I know you mentioned it earlier but it's one of the add-ons mentioned in the report. Try moving the following files to your Desktop to disable them, and then quit and relaunch Safari.
/Library/Contextual Menu Items/NAVCMPlugIn.plugin (right-click menu functionality added by Symantec)
/Users/dennishesselbarth/Library/Contextual Menu Items/NoteBookCMPlugIn.plugin (some other right-click menu add-on)
If things appear better after that, try moving them back one by one restarting Safari each time to find the culprit. It may be the case that you just need to update the add-ons to the latest version.