7 Replies Latest reply: Feb 1, 2009 8:39 PM by TheHikermann
TheHikermann Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Unfortunately, I'm not (apparently) smart enough to intuitively figure out how Apple's products work, so your assistance is appreciated. All I want to do is copy tunes in a Playlist over to my USB stick (or whatever the hip, proper term for those things is....) so that I can then move those tunes to my PC -- where they can much more easily be worked with. When I attempt to SelectAll, Copy & Paste into the USB icon on my Desktop, it "doesn't take" ... no tune files are pasted into the USB stick (that would, needless to say, be waaaaaay to simple -- so there must be some other this-is-Apple's-cooler-way-to-do-it that I'm not cool enough to figure out. Or is this a procedure too sophisticated for Apple's MacBook. (Yes, I am cynical; I'm just more than tired by the complete lack of common sense, intuitive application procedures when it comes to Apple products -- it's all about "look how cool and clever we've made THIS one ....)

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.4.11), It's black
  • Zevoneer Level 9 Level 9 (52,700 points)
    Connect your USB drive and then open your iTunes Music folder in Finder. Locate the tracks you want in the folder and drag them to the USB drive to make copies. If you want to copy your library files and your music (if it will all fit on your drive) then open Finder and drag the the whole iTunes folder to your drive: Back up your iTunes library by copying to an external hard drive
  • TheHikermann Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thank you. Unfortunately, this process merely reinforces what I dislike about iTunes/Apple products, since the tunes I want to copy are in a Program File, which is not how going through Finder brings them up -- it only shows all the artist files. So, if there are different artists in the Program that I want to copy, I would have to go back through the Artist Files one-by-one and drag tunes one-by-one; typically Apple stupid; further, what is the point of building in the additional steps of having to go through Finder when it would be logically simple to be able to go to iTunes, highlight, drag and paste. But, no, that kind of common sense doesn't exist in Appleworld, does it.

    So now I've gone through the steps you suggest, successfully copying the tunes to the USB stick; however, when I attempt to open them and play them on my PC, they (of course, in the best Apple "you'll do it OUR way or no way" mentality) can't be played on anything except iTunes ...

    Go figure.

    Thanks anyway.
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,660 points)
    since the tunes I want to copy are in a Program File

    This is incorrect. They are regular files like any other files on your comoputer.
    They are in a folder in \My Music\iTunes\iTunes music folder.

    You can copy them straight from iTunes to the USB stick on the desktop. No need to hunt them down in the individual folders in Windows Explorer.

    however, when I attempt to open them and play them on my PC, they (of course, in the best Apple "you'll do it OUR way or no way" mentality) can't be played on anything except iTunes ...

    If they are iTunes DRM protected songs (at 128 kbps) they can only play in iTunes, iPod, iPhone or AppleTV.
    If are not DRM, you can play them in many other players.
  • Limnos Level 8 Level 8 (42,050 points)
    What format is the USB stick drive? PCs can't read Mac formatted drives. (Incidentally Macs can read most PC drive formats, but not the other way around, so talk about certain software forcing you to do things certain ways...)

    I don't understand what you mean by "Program File". I use a mp3 player that does not work with iTunes. I make my playlist in iTunes, select all in the playlist, then drag that list over to the mp3 player/flash drive window. It copies all the files in that playlist. I have mixed artist, genres, everything, but they all get copied. After that it's a matter of what the mp3 player actually supports in terms of file recognition. With iTunes, even if you have DRM music on a Mac, it will play in iTunes on the PC if you have configured things properly. (Again, Apple isn't the only one doing this. Certain WM formats can only be played on Windows PCs, and there isn't an equivalent player available to Mac users.)
  • TheHikermann Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for your info; my error -- they are in what Apple calls "Playlists," not "Program" -- and playlists do not appear in Music\iTunes\iTunes Music, only the artist folders (as I previously stated); so, apparently, Playlists are hidden elsewhere or my initial point of needing to draw from each artist's folder is correct ...

    Secondly, they cannot be directly copied/dragged from an iTunes Playlist to the USB -- which repeated attempt is what started this whole discussion from my end; and, yes, the USB is quite capable of taking whatever other files I have transferred back and forth between the MacBook and PC repeated times, so it appears to be an iTunes-specific deficiency.

    The files carry over a .m4a extension, which Windows insists must be played on iTunes -- hence, no music there! Whatever does "DRM-protected" mean? Obviously another you-gotta-know-this-little-fact-before-you-can-use-our-product designation ...
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,660 points)
    Thanks for your info; my error -- they are in what Apple calls "Playlists," not "Program"

    They may be in a playlist but they don't have to be. A playlist is simply a way to help organize songs in iTunes (not on your hard drive) as you want. All players use some type of playlists.

    Secondly, they cannot be directly copied/dragged from an iTunes Playlist to the USB -

    What happens? Any messages?

    m4a is simply the file extension for an AAC files, which can be played on many different players.
    Since you have nothing else on your computer that can play AAC files, Windows tells you that you must use iTunes.

    Whatever does "DRM-protected" mean?

    DRM = Digital Rights Management. Simply a way to help prevent sharing the files. Windows Media Player can use it also for WMA files.
  • TheHikermann Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thank you for your info; please see previous reply re "Playlist" v "Program" -- my error; what do you mean you "use a[n] mp3 player that does not work with iTunes"? The only mp3 designation my MacBook Finder locates is Quicktime, but when I open Quicktime all that shows up is another opportunity for me to spend money at the iTunes store -- just a window full of advertising, and nothing that remotely indicates this is a "player" or location to which one would drag files ...

    Obviously, I'm probably not sufficiently qualified to appreciate or properly use Apple products ... but that could only be my misplaced insistence that things in this world be made in such a way that common sense and intuitive comprehension can readily figure them out.