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Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
Hello
I need some "simple" help regards playing QT movies directly from my Mac Pro to my TV.
Up until now, I have taken a arduous crazy route: I copy a movie to an external firewire drive; then connect that drive to my laptop (an older G4). Then I connect the laptop to my even older VCR, because it has RCA plug import/export ports - and that VCR is connected to my TV.
Like I said, crazy!

I have been scouring the forums and keep reading about Radeon and ATI but I am at a loss as to how to match up what I have with what I am reading about.
When I use System Profiler, and select Hardware - Graphics/Displays. I see "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT" at the top of the list. Beyond that, I'm dumb.

My TV is fairly new and has many ports for input. (Not sure which to tap into for my purposes).

I do have an Apple DVI to Video Adapter-for my laptop.
I don't know if I can use that to connect my Mac Pro (via RCA plugs or S-Video) to my TV.
When I search I mostly get wrong info - that is, no matter how I enter Mac Pro, I get back MacBook Pro.
But I do get some helpful info, as such: Use the DVI to Video Adapter to connect the DVI port on a Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, or Mac mini to any S-video or Composite enabled device."
But...Duh. That brings me back up to the top of this post.

I try. Sometimes I succeed. And sometimes I just hope someone else has figured it out and is willing to help.
noodlehead confoun..ddeD

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4), whoa, trying to adjust
  • 1. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    pwn247 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    On the back of your TV, can you list which ports it has? Usually, new HDTV LCD sets are capable of DVI, and of course most (if not all) televisions can run S-Video no problem (even my 18-year old 32" CRT, retro 320 pixels).

    You can pick up an Apple 'DVI to S-Video' adapter for $19 in the Apple Store (and of course a little cheaper from less reliable resources).

    But it's a fairly simple process. The DVI connects to your video output (in this case, your 7300GT - I've got the same card), and then you can use an S-Video cable to rig it up to your television set. I'm not too sure as to if we can plug it up to DVI port #2 (on the 7300), but I assume that would be possible (so that your monitor serves as one screen, and your television as the other).

    I hope this helps out!



    +When I search I mostly get wrong info - that is, no matter how I enter Mac Pro, I get back MacBook Pro.+
    ^ I know how that is. Makes me so angry.
  • 2. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Malcolm Rayfield Level 7 Level 7 (28,070 points)
    I see "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT" at the top of the list.
    I do have an Apple DVI to Video Adapter-for my laptop.

    The DVI to Video adapter requires the ATI graphics card. It won't work with NVIDIA cards.
    My TV is fairly new and has many ports for input. (Not sure which to tap into for my purposes).

    VGA, DVI, or HDMI will all give a better picture than the DVI to Video adapter (even if it worked with you graphics card).
  • 3. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
    pwn247
    Thank you. Very Helpful. I need to pull my TV out from the wall and do some illuminating. I'm about to do that but wanted say thanks right now.

    Malcolm Rayfield:
    Likewise. Thanks.

    I'll post results. (Got an ice storm going on here)


    nnooo-dlehead

  • 4. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
    Well, I am lost, dazed and confused. The more I search regards DVI connectors, the more I find myself falling down a rabbit hole. Far too many variables (between the type of ports on the TV and the output ports on different Macs - and the language each uses to describe.) Nothing appears a straightforward "this-to-that."
    My TV (Vizio 42" LCD) manual has a section for connecting a PC computer. In that, it instructs as follows: "connect a 15-pin D Sub RGB (VGA) Cable to the RGB output of your pc computer and the other end to the RGB pc input at the rear of the HDTV."
    Well, I have no problem locating the ports but the language is confusing. Likewise, on my Mac Pro and my G4 powerbook. Both have ports and connectors that use arcane language, and have a multiplicity of connector types.
    Right now I am sitting in a puddle of cables with a big TV sitting on the floor, backwards; and two Macs likewise exposed.
    Surely there is a better way.
    This is almost as un-understandable as 816 billion (not that I am making any political, economic, societal or cultural references.)
    Sorry about that mini rant but... well?
    nÔÔdle--hëad Per-rrr-plexed
  • 5. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    saucony_jabroni Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Yo Noodle-head,

    I hope you get this message. Ya man, I have the same issue with Mac Pro-->Nvidia video card-->Apple DVI to video adapter kit-->s-video/composite cable-->my 20" TV-->watch my movies!!

    I have done extensive research, spoken to tech reps at both Nvidia AND Apple, and I'm still terribly frustrated.

    Basically, what I keep reading is that only ATI cards, not Nvidia cards, are able to DO TV using the DVI-->video adapter-->TV setup. However, every tech rep I've spoken to says it SHOULD work, but that they couldn't tell me why it won't. Additionally, the manual for my Nvidia card (the GeForce 8800 GT for Mac -- an upgrade model for pre 2008 Mac Pros -- not the same model that you use, but the same manufacturer, and I've come to believe that's what counts) states explicitly that the DVI-I port on this card (supports analog out) is *designed to work* with the Apple DVI to video adapter kit, purchased from the Apple store. /palmface

    OK, so the Nvidia tech rep whom I spoke with was as baffled as I am, but he was willing to confirm an alternative solution: http://www.svideo.com/vga2videosmall.html My card shipped with a DVI-->VGA adapter, so this seems like a fairly sure-shot solution (DVI-->VGA adapter-->VGA to composite video and s-video converter-->TV). I'll likely return my Apple adapter and buy this device, though it costs more.

    So, to conclude, have you come up with a functional solution, separate from your circuitous laptop-->vhs-->TV route since you posted, lol? I share your sentiment that, short of buying an Apple TV, this should be much simpler!

    chapinbk@hotmail.com (avid apple enthusiast, 95% of the time!)
  • 6. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    dchao99 Level 4 Level 4 (2,040 points)
    Hi Noodle,

    Is this what's on the back of your LCD TV?



    I can see two HDMI inputs there. If that's the case, just ignore the VGA cable, and go to radio shack and get a HDMI to DVI cable. You are set to go.
  • 7. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    saucony_jabroni Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Of course I would agree with dchao99 that if Noodle-head's Visio LCD TV has HDMI inputs, that a digital solution is far superior to the analog option that I'm trying to achieve. Any thoughts on the analog front?
  • 8. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Malcolm Rayfield Level 7 Level 7 (28,070 points)
    Basically, what I keep reading is that only ATI cards, not Nvidia cards, are able to DO TV using the DVI-->video adapter-->TV setup. However, every tech rep I've spoken to says it SHOULD work, but that they couldn't tell me why it won't. Additionally, the manual for my Nvidia card (the GeForce 8800 GT for Mac -- an upgrade model for pre 2008 Mac Pros -- not the same model that you use, but the same manufacturer, and I've come to believe that's what counts) states explicitly that the DVI-I port on this card (supports analog out) is *designed to work* with the Apple DVI to video adapter kit, purchased from the Apple store. /palmface

    See Table 2 and Table 4 in:
    <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Conceptual/HWTechVideo/Articles/Videoimplementation.html>
  • 9. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Shane Otis2 Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
    Hopefully your new TV has HDMI inputs. If so, you should be able to get a DVI <---> HDMI cable for not too much money, then it's a matter of setting up your monitor to the appropriate resolution in OS X and making the correct settings on your television.

    I started doing this recently with my Mac Pro and it's working great! I have an DVI - HDMI connected to one output, then another DVI connected to the other, which is connected to a KVM switch which alternates to my Macbook Pro.... SWEET JUICY TECHNOLOGICAL YUMMY GOODNESS
  • 10. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
    TO ALL
    Great to get so many inspired thoughts and comments. Sadly (or gladly) I have a date and got to get out of the house for an overnight. (Really, gladly). Just wanted to post this thanks to all till I get back and try out the suggestions.
    N.
  • 11. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
    dchao (and others in this thread).
    It's taken me a while to get back because I could not reconcile the cables I have with what is needed - and what my different devices have as ports.
    I think I have been trying to do something more complicated than necessary (I'll clarify at the bottom of this if anyone's interested).
    Bottom line, dchao99's image IS what I have on the back of my TV. And on the back of my Mac Pro, I have a DVI to ADC adapter going to a second Apple monitor. (That was annoying, had to shell out $100 just to be able to use an existing Apple display when I bought my Mac Pro). Anyway, I think I understand the situation and what (might/should) work. Except my TV is in another room and I'd likely need a cable about 24' long to reach it. Looks like they exist and cost around $90. But - another but - as usual cable definitions are confusing. All I see those lengths are "DVI-D" cables. Best I can figure is that means digital to digital? I assume my Mac is, but is my TV?

    (*As far as what I was trying to do: to get around the distance issue, I wanted to copy shows from my Mac Pro to my Powerbook G4, which I could then set up right alongside the TV. It looks like I CAN do that with a "Mini-DVI to HDMI adapter.)

    Thanks all. Once I get said cables I'll post results.
  • 12. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)
    Isn't this the type of thing that Mac-Mini (rumor of overdue updates) or Apple TV targets?
  • 13. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    Robert Rogers Level 2 Level 2 (345 points)
    There is an issue that no one has talked about and that is HDCP compliance. If the DVI to HDMI does not show the tv that it is HDCP compliant you will not get a picture. The ATA radeon 2600 card I believe is HDCP compliant and that is why it works. Just my 2 cents and hope it may shed some light. I personally have all my video on my Mac Pro and use Apple TV with HDMI connection to get a HD picture on my Mitsubishi 73 TV. A more expensive way but it works.
  • 14. Re: How can I play movies-MacPro-to my TV?
    AndrewTurner Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)
    Robert Rogers wrote:
    I personally have all my video on my Mac Pro and use Apple TV with HDMI connection.

    Same with me - I compared the reasonable associated costs / time with using a video converter (DVI -> HDMI), then an HDMI cable long enough to reach my set from the computer desk. After computations, the Apple TV was roughly the same amount as a decent conversion setup would cost me, but saves me the hassle of additional hassle on my Mac Pro. I'm enjoying the ease of use of the Apple TV.
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