buddy list and deletions/blocking

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buddy list and deletions/blocking

Just a quick question. The other day a buddy that I haven't spoke to in forever just appeared on my list as 'online'. I had originally thought this person had blocked me, and wondered now if I was unblocked. Someone mentioned that perhaps I may have been deleted, and that would give the appearance of unblocking. They still appear on my list.

So the question is: if someone deletes you on their buddy list, will they still appear on your list as online/offline? Or should they vanish, as if they blocked you? I find it odd that if I was deleted, they would still show up on my list.

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Posted on Feb 15, 2009 10:22 AM

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Answer 1

Feb 15, 2009 10:47 AM in response to Dave Gouveia1

Hi,

It is somewhat conditional.

Anyone can appear in your Buddy list that you add as long as they are On-line and not Blocking you or are using Allow List that has you in it.
Any Block or Allow List functions apply as normal (they appear off Line in both circumstances)

If they Remove you from the Buddy List, but still appear in the Block List they have, you remain Blocked.

However if they stop using the Block list you will see them as their Current On-line State.

In iChat 4 this can be complicated with your Buddy being set to Invisible.

So yes (conditionally) they will appear as On-line (Available, Away or Idle).

6:42 PM Sunday; February 15, 2009

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Answer 2

Feb 15, 2009 11:29 AM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

So, if I understand what you're saying: if I was originally blocked, and they just deleted me from their list, they would not have appeared on my list. But if they 'unblocked' me THEN deleted me, it's possible they would still appear on my list.

So for them to have first reappeared, they would have had to have unblocked me first... correct?

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Answer 3

Feb 15, 2009 11:45 AM in response to Dave Gouveia1

The Block list and Buddy list are independent of each other in the sense that someone can be in the Block List but not in the Buddy List.

It would not matter if you were in their Buddy List or not - it is just about Blocking. They can remove you from the Buddy List and keep you in the Block List

Or similar effects if you are Not in the Allow Specific People list or the Buddy List if Allow Buddy list is used.

Allow All allows anyone to contact you no matter if you are in their Buddy List or not.
Allow Buddy List Only set at their End would not show them as On-Line if you are not in their Buddy List.
Blocking certain people (you) from their end also makes them appear Off line to you.
Invisible in iChat 4 set at their End (Or in another app that can do it) would make them appear Off-lime.
I have note experimented with Allow Specific People to find out if it can Allow Non Buddy List people (Like a reverse Block List).

Of course they could have been using iChat 3 and logged in with a Screen Name you don't know.

They could have been in hospital for 6 months and not on line at all.

They could be on Dial-Up and not paid the phone bill.

There are lots of possibilities and being Blocked is only one of the way a Buddy List can be run.

7:45 PM Sunday; February 15, 2009

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Answer 4

Feb 15, 2009 1:34 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

Hey Ralph, thanks for your indepth analysis... lol. I think you've explained far more than I've needed to know... although I feel my actual question has not been answered. I'll run a test myself and see if I can figure it out. Thanks for piping in. 🙂

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Answer 5

Feb 15, 2009 2:00 PM in response to Dave Gouveia1

Oh No.

These 360+ pages are more than you ever need to know
http://www.ralphjohns.co.uk/index.html

10:00 PM Sunday; February 15, 2009

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Answer 6

Feb 15, 2009 6:11 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

two words: holy christ.

LOL.. that's some light reading Ralph. :P

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Answer 7

Feb 16, 2009 11:20 AM in response to Dave Gouveia1

Last major update last autumn I added the Atomz Search feature.

I am not too sure on it yet. (Partly as it gives results from the Menu that is on every page).

Also judging by the search results I get back for Atomz I still have not got everything nor in a form that the searches pick up.

Looks like I will have to create my own Data base and run that as well. 🙂

7:20 PM Monday; February 16, 2009

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