500GB 7200rpm Hard Drive... Will it fit and will it work?

I'm planning on upgrading my MacBook Pro hard drive with one of the new Seagate Momentus 2.5 inch 500GB SATA 7200rpm 16MB hard drives.

It's to go inside a MacBook Pro 15" Intel Core Duo 2.16GHz model.

I'm having difficulty finding any conclusive reports confirming that the hard drive will physically fit in my MacBook Pro and that it is compatible, without any operating issues.

Can anyone help confirm if it's o.k. and will work with my MacBook Pro please?

Mac Pro 2 x 2.8 Quad Core, MacBook Pro 2.16 Dual Core & iPhone 3G, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Feb 26, 2009 4:00 PM

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Feb 26, 2009 7:15 PM in response to eyedeeuk

eyedeeuk:

The drive is a standard 2.5" SATA HDD for laptops. The only thing different is the 7200 rpm rotational speed. Earlier drives of the same capacity are 5400 rpm. In terms of how well it works, since the drive is relatively new I have not seen much feedback about it. Seagate has a good reputation and an even better warranty.

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Feb 26, 2009 7:39 PM in response to eyedeeuk

Yes it will fit. The thickness is 9.5, which will fit the 15" MBP. There is one 500 GB (I forget the brand, maybe Samsung?) that is 12.5 thick, and it will only fit in the 17" MBP.

There was a recent discussion on the sudden motion sensor you might like to review. Apparently there can be a problem if you get the drive with its own sudden motion sensor:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1901090&tstart=0

Good luck!

Feb 27, 2009 3:46 AM in response to S.U.

That's great guys, thanks. I've looked at the reviews and opinions expressed about Seagate's new hard drive and four out of five are extremely positive, the only negative being a little vibration at times, but that's not a problem for me.

This is the first time I will be upgrading a hard drive. I don't want to have to reinstall everything all over again (I only did a full format and re-install a few weeks ago) and would love to be able to copy the data off the hard drive onto the new hard drive so that everything just worked when I install the new drive. I had issues getting my Adobe and Quark software to work last time I re-installed as they thought I was using the software on too many machines - which I wasn't. I wasn't able to de-register the software applications before having to re-install them as my machine was wiped by apple when they were repairing it.

Is copying the disk so everything works immediately possible/simple to do, and if yes, how should I do it please? I have a USB external 2.5" hard drive case that I bought three years ago but never used. Could that be beneficial in copying the original disk to the new one?

Thanks again for help

Feb 27, 2009 5:26 AM in response to eyedeeuk

Relative to my prior post, I've thought of a couple of possible problems... If I copy my current 100gb hard drive onto a new 500gb drive, will the small partitions remain in place, effectively making three partitions (80gb Apple / 20gb Windows / 400gb other)? I hear there are ways to increase the size of a partition but I'm not sure how its done and if it's safe.

Also, I've been told that my Dual Core 2.16ghz 15" MacBook Pro is only Sata 1 compliant. If that's true, is there any point in buying a Sata 2 7200 drive which would theoretically only run at Sata 1 5400rpm speed anyway?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks again.

Feb 27, 2009 1:22 PM in response to eyedeeuk

There are a couple of good Mac OS X cloning programs:

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

I believe you can download both of these for free. I know that you can run Super Duper as many times as you want for free, and then register it for $27 to unlock some of its other features like Smart Update. I am less familiar with CCC, but I believe you can make a donation if you like it.

If you have an external enclosure, the thing to do is to put the new drive in the external enclosure. You can then follow Kappy's instructions for extended hard drive preparation:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1885474&tstart=60

What you want to do is to partition the new drive into however many partitions you want to end up with and sized the way you want them. With Leopard, you can resize the partitions or add or subtract them later if you like. You can use Super Duper or CCC to make an exact copy of the OS X partition. I don't run Windows myself, so I don't know how to clone that partition, but I expect it might use a different utility. Ditto with the "Other" partition, depending on what is in it.

After you do that, you can boot up from the external drive and be sure everything is working. You can go to System Preferences>Startup Disk and select which volume you want to start from. A firewire enclosure would be faster, but I believe that a USB enclosure will work.

Once you have established that you can boot from the external and it is set up exactly like you want, you can then install it in your Mac.

For the drive in your Mac, if you want to add a partition, you just go to Disk Utility and select the drive by manufacturer's name and go to the Partition tab. You then click on the "+" at the bottom and you instantly get another partition. You can drag the center bar up or down to size the partitions. If you want to keep the new partition, you can then click "Apply" at the bottom right. If you don't, then click on "Revert". So it is very simple to add, subtract, or adjust partitions in Leopard.

As to the 7200 vs. the 5400, I don't know.

Good luck!

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Feb 27, 2009 4:02 PM in response to eyedeeuk

eyedeeuk wrote:
Also, I've been told that my Dual Core 2.16ghz 15" MacBook Pro is only Sata 1 compliant. If that's true, is there any point in buying a Sata 2 7200 drive which would theoretically only run at Sata 1 5400rpm speed anyway?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks again.


SATA I and SATA II are misnomers; the real terms are SATA 1.5Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s, while less exciting sounding, more accurately represents what the difference actually means. SATA 3Gb/s provides a larger pipe through which data can be transferred, but rotation speed (5400RPM vs. 7200 RPM) is unaffected. The so-called pipe is responsible for overall throughput, while the rotation speed affects seek times.

You can install a SATA 1.5Gb/s drive into a SATA 3Gb/s bus, and vice versa. In either case, the drive and bus will both operate at the lowest common denominator.

Feb 27, 2009 11:53 PM in response to eyedeeuk

I am going to buy exactly the same drive. I read good comments about it everywhere. By the way whats the bus in the original macbook pro? I think it s 1,5G/s right?
To answer to th original poster. CCC is great for duplicating his partition and drive genious (which is a little expensive, but a nice utility) lets you change the size and/or number of partitions on the fly without having to format.

Mar 2, 2009 5:42 AM in response to S.U.

It's great to know I won't have to install everything from scratch when I get the new larger hard drive installed. Thanks for the advice regarding the partitioning software.

I just need to decide/figure out the best hard drive type to buy now. My MacBook Pro has a bus speed of 667Mhz (cache bus speed of 2.16GHz), and a factory fitted hardrive of 100gb Sata 1.5gb/s. So does that mean that there is no logical reason to purchase a Sata 3.0gb/s hard drive over a Sata 1.5gb/s hard drive as either hard drive type will only transfer data at the slower 1.5gb/s speed anyway? Or have I got that wrong and a Sata 3.0gb/s hard drive would in fact be faster?

Apparantly, the factory fitted 100gb hard drive has "Sudden Motion Sensor" technology, but I read in the linked thread, posted earlier in this thread, that installing a seagate hard drive with this technology can cause the MacBook Pro to hang?

Mar 2, 2009 12:17 PM in response to eyedeeuk

3Gbs drives are going to be newer and therefore have better technology. Are you sure the factory drive you have has a motion sensor built in? I'm betting it doesn't. The OS has the sensor and you don't want a drive with a sensor built in.

In fact, if you want anything with 500GB you have to buy 3Gbs. I believe the fastest 1.5Gbs drives are 320GB 5400 RPM and not any cheaper than the equivalent 3Gbs drives. If you want a 7200 RPM 500GB HDD you don't have any choices as there is only one out right now and it is hard to get a hold of:

[Seagate 7k500|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148374] $139.99 at Newegg but out of stock

My recommendation: [Hitachi 7k320|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145228] $59.98 after $20 rebate

[Hitachi 5k320|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145228] $64.99 after $10 rebate so the 7k320 is priced better

[Seagate 5k500|http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148371] $99.99

Mar 2, 2009 2:10 PM in response to gpotts

Thanks gpotts. I'm not entirely sure if the hard drive has the motion sensor built in. The "everymac" website says: "The Apple MacBook Pro "Core Duo" 2.16 15-Inch features a 2.16 GHz "Core Duo" processor (T2600) ... and a 100.0 GB hard drive with "Sudden Motion Sensor" technology." but I don't know if that means there's a motion sensor on-board the hard drive?

I've decided I'm going to go for the Seagate Momentous drive when I can hunt one down, so now I just have to figure out for sure which model is the right one for my MacBook Pro.

Mar 2, 2009 2:52 PM in response to eyedeeuk

I'm not entirely sure this is it, but if you look in the System Profiler under Software>Extensions, you might see "SMCMotionSensor". I am guessing that this has to do with the sudden motion sensor, as I see nothing on the profile of the drive itself. One way you could probably find out for sure is to call the manufacturer of your original drive and give them the model number and ask.

Seagate mentions "optional G force protection", which seems to imply you can order a drive with or without it. I think that is their name for sudden motion sensor.

Good luck!

Mar 2, 2009 3:51 PM in response to S.U.

Yeah, that's spot on. I see SMCMotionSensor under software > extensions too. I think the specifications write up by everymac is probably a bit muddled and they mean that the MacBook Pro has the motion sensor technology built in which works alongside the hard drive - not actually built into the hard drive.

I'll try and get this confirmed once I find out who makes the hard drive in my 2.16 MacBook Pro, and what the model number is. Thanks

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