No more "random freezing" with my MbP ....

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No more "random freezing" with my MbP ....

...since I installed Safari 4 Beta 10 days ago!
Before Safari 4, I had 2-3 freezes per day when using the 9600 graphics Chip. Not just using Safari but using all kinds of programs (with safari closed!). This has been a huge problem for many people.
See this link for more info: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1767718&tstart=0&messageID=908 2914#9082914

Now, since I installed Safari 4 beta: not a single freeze in 10 days! and some other people see the same thing.
This is very weird no? The system is supposed to be designed so that a single program can not crash the whole system, no?! So now that the new version of Safari solves a permanent system crash problem, it looks like the problem was safari 3.x.x, which should not happen! Or...maybe Safari 4 contains also some System updates that were not published...
Well at least the problem seems to be solved, hope it doesn't come back! Would have been nice to know what the exact problem was though...

MacBook Pro 2.53GhZ, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Mar 6, 2009 8:10 AM

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Answer 1

Travis A.

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Mar 6, 2009 10:20 AM in response to Tomaz

Unless I'm remembering wrong, there have been incidences of "random freezing" after installing Safari 4.

The system is supposed to be designed so that a single program can not crash the whole system, no?!

It is. The random freezing is very likely not a software issue though, so this point does not apply to the issue at all. The system software is not "crashing" in these cases of random freezing. It is much more likely that there is some hardware issue that causes the system to just freeze.

Or...maybe Safari 4 contains also some System updates that were not published...

This is actually likely, but I doubt that it fixed your freezing issue. Webkit (the underlying engine of Safari) was substantially upgraded in Safari 4. Webkit (being an open-source standard that Apple develops) is also used in some other areas of OS X for rendering HTML content. So, when the Webkit engine is updated as a result of a Safari update, there are changes occurring at a system level.

Again, I would really really really doubt that this update fixed your freezing. However, if it isn't freezing anymore, then I guess we shouldn't complain.

--Travis

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Tomaz Author

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Mar 6, 2009 1:52 PM in response to Travis A.

The only thing that changed since my computer stopped crashing was the installation of Safari 4. In fact, my computer ran fine for the first 2-3 months, until it started crashing constantly around Christmas, if I remember correctly. And it went from zero crashes, to 2-3 crashes per day (with the 9600 card) back to zero crashes. So I assume this has something to do with the software updates, since everything else remained the same. It would really be nice if Apple could communicate a bit better, so that us users actually know what exactly is in an update. That way, discussions like this one could be avoided and everyone would be happier.
Well, who cares, my expensive computer seems fine again, "Prost" to that!

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Answer 3

Mar 7, 2009 4:52 AM in response to Tomaz

I too am running Safari 4 beta, BUT I am still experiencing freezes and the grey screen of death, most recently yesterday afternoon. All require a hard start and hopefully I've saved whatever I was working on. I no expert, but there doesn't seem to be any connection or improvement for me since installing Safari 4 Beta.

Since Apple Phone Support has been useless in trying to explain/fix my freezes and since I am overseas until June, I've resolved to taking screen shots of the console after a freeze occurs and trying to document what I was doing just prior to the freeze. Maybe when I get back a "genius" can resolve this once and for all.

I cannot begin to express how disappointed in the my 2.53 Aluminum MBP. I've owned a first generation Intel iMac for 4 years, running 10.4.11 and not once has it frozen. Spent half as much too.

I would appreciate any help this group could offer or directing me to previous threads to try and resolve these freezes.

Frustrated in Central America...

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Answer 4

bsea34

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Mar 14, 2009 8:28 PM in response to Christopher Steffens

I too haven't had a single freeze since I installed Safari 4 Beta three weeks ago!!! It seems to only help some people but not all...

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