Record live band practice with Garage Band

Any tips on how to best record a band practice with a single mic and Garage Band? It doesnt have to be amazing quality, just something we can post online to give an idea of sound. We have a sno-ball mic and a macbook. Thoughts are appreciated. The band is 8-pieces (yeah horn section) so thats why we just want to do the quick and dirty for this. Thanks!

Macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Mar 10, 2009 1:48 PM

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Mar 10, 2009 8:48 PM in response to Phillyberg125

Phillyberg125 wrote:
Any tips on how to best record a band practice with a single mic and Garage Band? It doesnt have to be amazing quality, just something we can post online to give an idea of sound. We have a sno-ball mic and a macbook. Thoughts are appreciated. The band is 8-pieces (yeah horn section) so thats why we just want to do the quick and dirty for this. Thanks!


Set up the band and play as if to an audience. Put the mic in front of the band, where someone in the audience might be standing. Try moving the mic around to see what spot sounds best (or least bad), and that's your spot. Then, record away.

Mar 11, 2009 7:44 AM in response to Phillyberg125

Phillyberg125 wrote:
I've been using the Snoball mic and its been giving me terrible distortion on the high end do I didn't know if there's another method. What I'm hearing is, this IS doable through Garageband. Is there a better program or preferred method? Thank you all!


There are better programs and better methods - recording on individual tracks and mixing them, using better gear, learning how to record or working with experienced engineers, going to professional studios, etc. It boils down to how much you want to invest (money, time, effort) to get a better sound.

You can do a lot more with GB before switching to another DAW, although a single snowball mic will struggle.

If all you want to do is document your rehearsal and a single mic works for that - great. But if you're looking to record something that also sounds good, you'd probably at least have to get an interface with multiple inputs so each instrument can be individually miced/tracked (or go through some kind of mixer).

Mar 11, 2009 8:00 AM in response to Phillyberg125

Yeah i just want to get something basic that is audible and ok for myspace. We'll eventually do the real recording, just didnt know if i'm better off getting a second mic and recording 2 live tracks at once through garageband or what? What makes it doable with the snoball mic and garageband and what should i be careful of? Thanks again for this. Very new. Since we're a jam band we want to be able to record live shows too so this plays into that. Trying to limit costs and make things as easy as possible. Thanks!

Mar 11, 2009 9:04 AM in response to Phillyberg125

So what I'm hearing is that for the snoball mic/Garageband set up i currently have - the issue is mic placement and then just record practice as a "real Instrument"

Any suggestions on simple mixers? My issue is that the band is 8-pieces so I didnt know if that means I have to have 8 channels simply to record a practice. Like i said, this is allowed to be gritty, just want to limit distortion on the high gain end.

Mar 11, 2009 9:32 AM in response to Phillyberg125

There really is no one answer.

It comes down to how much you want to spend and how much effort you want to put into this.

You can see how good a recording you can get out of the snowball, and if it's OK with you, then you're good. If it's not OK, then you need more equipment. That can be a slippery slope, and the question is always, how good is good enough, and experience using equipment often counts for more than the equipment itself.

That said, if you're 8 instruments, it's a big leap up from one mic to 8, and an interface that can handle all those inputs.

However, you're not going to get much out of a single USB mic.

I'd either get some combination of mics and an interface to do a proper recording with GB or, as iSteveus suggested, get one of those small portable flash recorders (many come with onboard mics) that you can use to record rehearsals and performances easily and reliably.

Sweetwater is a big online retailer that is a good place to peruse gear.

Here's a selection or portable recorders on their site:

http://www.sweetwater.com/c1006--Portable_Recorders

Here's interfaces (check out firewire and USB - USB is cheaper, Firewire is better):

http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/computer-audio/audio_interfaces/

mics:

http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/studio/studio-microphones/

Mar 11, 2009 1:33 PM in response to Phillyberg125

Phillyberg125 wrote:
Excellent. Thank you. Sounds like a flash recorder would be good. No firewire though, only because they decided to not put that in the new mac book. So dumb! Thanks!


Welcome!

Yeah, the flash recorders are good and easy - for recording anywhere, you just push record and don't have to worry about all the computer issues. And after you finish recording, you can easily transfer the file to a computer (to GB if you like) for further editing.

Or if, say, you videotape a concert, you can also record it with the flash recorder for better audio, and then sync the audio to the video in a video editing application later on.

The Sony flash recorders are my favorite, although they're a bit pricey. There are a bunch of other models that are cheaper and are also well liked.

I agree wholeheartedly about firewire on the new Macbooks - Grrrr...

Mar 11, 2009 8:06 PM in response to Phillyberg125

Phillyberg125 wrote:
Last question:

How is it that the flash recorders will work and not comp sound but the mic i'd buy for the same price and usb into the mac does?


Reasonable question -

Both will work, both can sound great, both can sound terrible.

Recording into a computer is more complex because the computer does other things. Flash recorders only do one thing, so they're optimized for that. A million things can go wrong with a computer, but the flash recorders are dedicated (albeit limited) devices. They're small and reliable, and won't try to connect to a wireless network or write to a Spotlight database in the middle of a recording and crash.

But they don't necessarily sound better than a computer.

My Sony flash recorder will sound better than recording into a computer with a so-so interface and so-so mic because it has better audio components. The mic pres, mics, and digital converters in it are well made, so it sounds great.

However, if I use a better interface, mic pres, and mic and record into my computer, that will sound better than my Sony recorder, but will also be harder to manage. If I just want to set up and record to a single (stereo) mic source, the Sony is way more convenient and sounds great. If I want the best sounding recording I can make, I'll use my computer, interface, and a bunch of outboard pres and mics.

I think there may be some USB mics that are OK sounding. I know some people who use them and get good results. But generally, USB mics are not that great sounding. They combine a mic, a digital converter, and an interface into one inexpensive package. The snowball sells for around $100. I'm not sure how that divides among the components, but that's very little money that's gone into making the mic, converter, and interface. It lets you get up and running for cheaps, but it's so cheap that it's never going to sound all that great.

If you spent a hundred dollars on just the interface, and a couple of hundred dollars on mics going into your computer, it will sound better than the snowball because the components are better.

The flash recorder won't sound better because it's a flash recorder. It's just that if you spend around (picking random number) $300 on a flash recorder, it's dedicating maybe $150 towards the mic and pres, and $150 towards the recorder, optimized to work together in a dedicated device. That will outperform the $50 mic in the snowball.

Your setup sounds like it can take you in two very different directions - one simple (one mic to record the room), the other complex (at least 8 inputs of interface/mixer to record the entire band). Since setting up the complex solution would be a big jump in price to get decent sounding equipment, it sounds like the simple solution might be a better way to start, for now.

You could buy a small interface and a couple of mics and that would rival (or be better than some) flash recorders. But you'd still be looking to upgrade to a more flexible interface for the whole band. And you'd still be paying a couple of hundred bucks. Still - you shouldn't rule that out. Maybe buying a small interface and a couple of mics would be a good way to start. A gateway drug to a bigger, more flexible interface.

Or, for the same money that you'd pay for the small interface and mics, if you're still thinking of just plopping a mic down in one place and making a simple stereo recording (not multitrack), you could get a flash recorder which will not only work for now, but will continue to be useful to you even after you get a larger interface and expand.

Flash recorders are always good to have around. Just being able to take something out of your pocket and record, fast and easy - that's always useful. And since you're talking about recording from one spot, why deal with a computer, wires, setup, hard drives, mic stands, a chair to put the computer on, a power cable from the computer to the outlet, someone walking into the cable, the computer falling off of the chair, the hinge on the screen breaking, everyone getting mad at the person who knocked the computer off the chair, that person feeling really bad, dropping out of the band, getting depressed, wandering around Lafayette Park in a chicken suit, getting in all sorts of trouble... it's just a slippery slope.

However, no one solution is intrinsically better than the other, or intrinsically better-sounding. Both will work, both can sound great, both can sound terrible.

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