Transferring 8mm video

I would like to know how to transfer my 8mm video to IMovie, so I can edit and burn these movies.

I tried using my current Sony DV camcorder as a converter or a pass through, but no such luck. My DV camcorder has a S-Video input, but my old 8mm camcorder does not. So not sure what to do with that.

I used the computer> firewire>DV camcorder. Then the RC plugs (audio/video-red/yellow plugs) were connected to the old 8mm cam to the DV camcorder. Then I played the video thru the 8mm camcorder and it was not showing up on the DV camcorder.

Posted on Jul 26, 2005 2:01 AM

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Jul 26, 2005 2:50 AM in response to drama queen

drama queen,

I also have a Sony mini DV camcorder (model DCR-TRV20E) and have used pass through successfully in various versions of iMovie (not sure about 5.0.2 though).

To allow pass through to work, you need to change a setting in the camera's menu. Set A/V>DV OUT to ON in the menu settings for VCR SET. The camera must also be set to VCR (playback) mode. Once you start playback on the 8mm camcorder, you should then see the video in the LCD screen and also on iMovie's preview screen. Import in the normal way.

John

Jul 26, 2005 3:40 AM in response to drama queen

Back again - stopped for a tea break and just had another thought!

It occurred to me that, irrespective of your menu settings, the video should play through to the DV camera if the appropriate cables are connected correctly. The menu settings I mentioned simply allow pass through to the computer and should have no effect on viewing the video on the camera screen. However, I could be wrong!

Anyway, it's best that the cable setup is checked. Sony cameras generally come with an A/V cable. It has a mini plug on one end (composite audio/video) and 3 separate RCA plugs on the other. The RCA plugs are coloured yellow (for video), white (for left audio) and red (for right audio). It was unclear from your post as to how you had connected the video. You mentioned S-Video, which your old camera did not have - so that's of no use.

Accordingly, connect the mini plug to the DV camcorder's A/V socket and the yellow RCA plug to the video jack (output) of the 8mm cam. The red and white plugs connect to the corresponding audio out jacks on the 8mm cam. If this cam only has one audio jack (mono sound), then just connect the white plug to this socket - the DV cam will split this into 2 stereo tracks automatically.

You may have already set up your connections this way, but I thought it best to check. Hopefully, it will work for you!

John

Aug 5, 2005 10:12 AM in response to drama queen

I also want to transfer about 50 8mm tapes to iMovie. (I just purchased my first Mac - g5).
1. My old camcorders (canon & sony) are both broken. (I currently have a new digital Canon). Assuming I need an 8mm camera, I assume I will need to buy one. Any recomendations/ (I would only use to transfer old tapes).
ps This is my first "discussion". I am also very computer ignorant, i.e., will not understand technical lingo (-:

Aug 9, 2005 12:57 AM in response to Jon Bodin1

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This was my reply:

Hi.

You want a recommendation for an 8mm video camera, but I know nothing about them and that's why I didn't answer your post.
For general tips, you find a link to a MacWorld article already posted in the thread you posted in.

Good luck.

Aug 10, 2005 12:47 AM in response to drama queen

Greetings and thanks to all who post:
Ive read the previous posts but since ive been converting 8MM ill contribute my 2 cents.

First, iMovie 5 users download the 5.02 Update, as there have been problems with importing from analog using a digital camera as a passthrough.

Naturally you’re going to need an 8MM camera that has audio/viedo output, or you can buy an 8MM cassette deck, there is also a model of sony camera (DCR-TRV240 and some similar makes), that reads both analog (8MM) and digital (Hi8 and D8) which you can use to export through firewire. I use my cassette deck though just so I don’t waste the head on my camcorder.

For those who have 8MM cameras without s-video out, use an RCA cable that has all three colours in one cable (red/white/yellow), ill explain below.

For thos who do have S-video, use the S-video cable to export the video and use an Audio only (red/white but no yellow) cable to send the sound out *disclaimer below, keep reading*. Or use the S-video and an audio/video RCA cable (red/white/ and yellow), but don’t connect the yellow, just to make sure the video goes through the higher quality s-video cable.

A WARNING however, I recommend using in all circumstances only cables that have all three coulours (both audio channels and and the video) because from experience, I once transferred about 15 hours of 8MM using an RCA audio cable (red/white no yellow) at which point I noticed that I had only imported left channel sound, My camera did not automatically split the sound. The result was that all the way to a burnt dvd, all I had was left channel sound. When I started using a cable that had audio and video, i acheieved full stereo and both channels went through, but I still sent my video through s-video (see above) Take advantage of stereo sound and play it safe.

If you do choose to use an audio only RCA cable, I recommend you take a pair of headphones and listen to your video while it’s playing on your computer or camera, to make sure you can hear sound in both channels, left and Right. If you only get sound in one, it’ most likely a limitation with the audio cable, .

If your camera (I know sony’s do) has the A/V > D/V OUT option, or anything similar, turn it to ON, this is necessary.

Once you have all connected correctly, turn your digital cam to VCR and start playing from your analog source, this should play on your digital camera’s LCD, if it doesn’t it’s A/V > D/V OUT is OFF, this happens on my camera. I start getting vid and audio when I turn it to ON.

Assuming you’ve already plugged in your FIREWIRE on both ends, and chosen the capture mode in iMOVIE, the video and audio will also come up on your computer. Also, when you use your digital camera as a passthough, make sure to take any digital tape out of it, otherwise, iMOVIE will give preference to the tape inside your camera and take control of the camera and only import the stuff inside the tape in your camera. When you take that tape out and you’re not playing anything iMovie will give you a blue screen that says “camera not connected or no tape” and all the play/stop/import controls/etc will be dimmed, ignore this. Once you start playing from your 8MM source, the vid and audio will override this message and should start to show up in the imovie pane, the only button that will undim is the “import” button. Now is the time to start importing. Make sure you have the 5.02 update, otherwise the video wont show up and the buttons wont undimm.

Hope this helps all, good luck saving those 8MM memories!

Oct 4, 2005 2:16 PM in response to Miguel Peralta

I'm trying to transfer 8mm analog tapes to iMovie. I've read your message and found it helpful, but I still have a problem;
My tapes were recorded on an NTSC analog camcorder (deceased) and I'm playing them back on a PAL DV 8mm camcorder (Sony DCR-TRV320E) and they playback fine. When I connect them to my powerbook's firewire port from the DV out on the Sony TRV320E (with A/V > D/V OUT ON) and then try to import to iMovie, the camera starts to playback then I get an error message saying "The camera is sending half-size images. The recording speed needs to be on SP or LP and I should reset it on the camcorder. I've check and it is set to SP on the camcorder so I'm wondering if I'm getting this message because I'm doing this between analog NTSC tapes to DV PAL bridge device to US Powerbook. I'd appreciate any help you can offer.

Thanks!

Oct 5, 2005 1:43 AM in response to Fariso

Is there no way of having iMovie receive it in the PAL format?


No, it must be NTSC since it's an NTSC tape.

And if so, what will my limitations be on burning DVDs later?


For best quality, burn an NTSC DVD. Any PAL DVD player capable of playing DVD-R discs will also play NTSC discs. (An NTSC player will obviously play NTSC discs.)

If you need to convert (but I really don't see any reason), look here:
http://www.danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6017.shtml

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