11 Replies Latest reply: Mar 25, 2009 7:31 PM by Kenilo
Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi Everyone,
I know own several Macs, having made the move from a pc. The first Mac I bought was a Mac Mini Power PC G4, which was soon updated to Tiger.

I have now passed that Mac mini onto my son so that he too can be a convert to Macs but I have a problem.

When I updated and later subsequently re-installed Tiger (to give my son a 'clean' hard drive) I omitted to install iLife 6 which he would like to add but the Mac won't let him install anything without my administrator password which of course I cannot remember. Therefore it appears that the only option left to me, is to do a complete re-install of the whole system and register my son as the administrator.

I have tried the trick of inserting the OS9 install disc, re-starting and holding down the 'c' key when I hear the tone. The 'c' key is then released when the grey screen bearing the Apple logo and spinning 'gear' appears, but the machine just starts as normal and asks for the forgotten password!

I have thought about re-formatting the hard drive using the Disc Utility App but the option is not there to do so on the 'Erase' tab, so does anyone know how to make this machine get back to being 'fresh out of the box' state? (Mac OS9 with iLife 6).

Many thanks, Ken

iMac 24", Mac Mini Intel Single Core, Mac Mini PowerPC G4, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • Ian Bickerstaffe Level 6 Level 6 (14,235 points)
    Hello Kenilo,

    Hmmm. Not sure where to begin here...

    No Mac Mini ever came with OS 9 on board. Classic support yes. OS 9 No. The earliest Minis came with 10.3.x ( 5 or 6 if memory serves me )

    Whoever told you there was a " trick " to overcome the current predicament there, is or has been, pulling your leg - I hope you did not part with any money!

    I think you are going to have to re-install the OS with the disks that came with the Mini and then start over.

    Regards.

    Ian.
  • Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks Ian,

    I have 2 MM's the 1st one (the one with the problem) G4 processor and the second an Intel single core, I wonder if I am trying to install the wrong disc into the old Mac Mini?

    Ken
  • Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Oh sorry Ian the 'trick' came from the Apple help web pages, I hadn't hear of it either...
    Ken
  • Ian Bickerstaffe Level 6 Level 6 (14,235 points)
    Aha!

    That solution ( wrong disk in wrong Mini ) most certainly will NOT work!

    Regards again.

    Ian.
  • Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks Ian,
    I have just put the remaining discs into my iMac and have found that they are to install 'Tiger' so I must have the right discs with each machine.

    So do you know how I re-install the original software?

    Ken.
  • Ian Bickerstaffe Level 6 Level 6 (14,235 points)
    Hello again Ken,

    " So do you know how I re-install the original software? "...

    Yeah - Insert the disk that came with the problematical Mini. Re-install the software. Job done.

    I feel as though I missed something here. Did I?

    Regards once more.

    Ian.
  • Ian Bickerstaffe Level 6 Level 6 (14,235 points)
    Hello again Ken,

    If you could link me to that page on the Apple help pages, I would be more than grateful.

    Regards.

    Ian.
  • Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Sorry to keep bothering you Ian,

    I'm back to square one of my original question,

    "I have tried the trick of inserting the OS9 install disc, re-starting and holding down the 'c' key when I hear the tone. The 'c' key is then released when the grey screen bearing the Apple logo and spinning 'gear' appears, but the machine just starts as normal and asks for the forgotten password!"

    By putting the disc into the computer it simply asks for my password.... I don't have it...

    Looking at the printed face of the Apple installation disc I do have here it states "To start up from Mac OS X, hold down the C key as the computer starts up"

    Do you or anyone else reading this thread know how to get around this installation problem.

    Very grateful for your help so far Ian, keep the suggestions coming.

    Cheers,

    Ken.
  • Ian Bickerstaffe Level 6 Level 6 (14,235 points)
    Hello again Ken,

    It now sounds like 2 possibles...

    Wrong disk or you are not holding down the C key long enough. Possible?

    Regards.

    Ian.
  • Boece Level 5 Level 5 (6,245 points)
    A third possibility: the "C" key trick requires a wired usb keyboard that is not the apple aluminum keyboard. Wireless and the Alu generally won't work.
  • Kenilo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    You Know... You may be right, will let you know if it works.

    Thanks.