completely wipe deleted files securely

is there a way to deleted files that i'm moved to the trash and emptied... I've heard they can still be recovered... so is there a program that does somethin like write 0's over stuff so they cant be recovered... like a total wipe out of deleted files??

iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.1)

Posted on Mar 24, 2009 4:28 PM

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Mar 24, 2009 4:34 PM in response to ALLizonANikon

Secure empty trash erases the files, doesn't just delete the reference to them. you can also use Disk Utility's secure erase free space to do this for space on your drive that may still hold files you deleted a while back.

This is from Tiger's Finder Help but is probably similar in Leopard (you can check)

"Even after you empty the Trash, deleted files may still be recovered by using special data-recovery software. To delete files so that they cannot be recovered, choose Finder > Secure Empty Trash. Files deleted in this way are completely overwritten by meaningless data. This may take some time, depending on the size of the file. To prevent the recovery of files you deleted previously, open Disk Utility (in Applications/Utilities), choose Help > Disk Utility Help, and search for help on erasing free disk space."

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Mar 24, 2009 4:37 PM in response to ALLizonANikon

If you have a hard drive you are retiring or are giving a computer away, again, use Disk Utility's security option in the erase window to write zeros. Writing once should be sufficient for most purposes. You can choose up to 30-something times, but if you have a large drive that could take days to complete.

If you just want to erase the empty space on your present drive, I mentioned that in my previous post. Use DU's erase free space feature.

Mar 24, 2009 6:21 PM in response to ALLizonANikon

You have to choose the files you want shredded and use Shredit to do it.
I think Shredit will erase the free space on your hard drive which is where any previously deleted file remnants might exist.
It won't erase your computer's programs unless you intentionally
set it to do so.
You might want to inquire with Mireth.com about any concerns/questions you have.
Permanent Eraser won't erase files that you've already deleted. You have to use it to delete and erase instead of using your Mac's Trash function.
Be aware that the Guttman method can take quite a while if you have a very large file or quantity of files to get rid of.

Mar 24, 2009 8:50 PM in response to ALLizonANikon

In Disk Utility you can select the drive on which you wish to erase free space, then after clicking the erase free space button it offers the option of doing various levels of erasing. As I said, most people would find a single write of zeros sufficient. It would likely take a lot of money and a truly professional data recovery service to get anything off a single erase. You can also choose 7 writes, or 35, but these will tie up your drive for quite a while, especially if you have a lot of free space.

Once you do a free space erase once, as long as you use secure empty trash when emptying the trash any future files will also be overwritten.

I am not sure what those utilities posted by another helper offer that Disk Utility doesn't, but I haven't looked at them.

Also consider why you are doing this, and disadvantages. Most people would only need secure erase when selling a computer or disposing of a drive. If you truly have secure data that requires this kind of thing I hope you also have other security measures implemented for the files you do want to keep (forget about your login password - that's easy to get around). Multi writes of this kind will tie up your computer and I have read can be hard on a drive since it is essentially writing to the whole drive in one session. It is also not uncommon that somebody accidentally trashes and empties a file they did not intend to delete. If you secure erase it will truly be gone (happened last week with somebody on one of the forums). While it seems to be a cool feature, I would hesitate to use it unless you really feel the need.

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