8 Replies Latest reply: Apr 9, 2009 2:51 AM by Grant_M
Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hey,

I'm getting kernel panics when I have a lot of programs open, but while I still have plenty of inactive memory left per Activity Monitor. It may happen with several Firefox windows open, but it seems like it happens when there are less than a dozen browser windows open and I was not currently using Firefox. I have gone through all the KP fixes per Apple instructions including the painful task of installing and reinstalling OS X 1.5.6. I hope in Snow Leopard there will be more fixes to kernel panics (and a better version of Spotlight).

Here's the KP log:

Thu Mar 26 21:12:40 2009
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x0019EB7E): "simple lock deadlock detection: lock=0x7bdff3c, cpu=1, owning thread=0xff0000"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.9.59/osfmk/i386/locks_i386.c:317
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5b787c98 : 0x12b4f3 (0x45b13c 0x5b787ccc 0x1335e4 0x0)
0x5b787ce8 : 0x19eb7e (0x462c18 0x7bdff3c 0x1 0xff0000)
0x5b787d08 : 0x13c2a7 (0x7bdff3c 0x216 0x5b787d58 0x6f05aa8)
0x5b787d48 : 0x13d895 (0x7bdff20 0x3 0x19318b94 0x19318b90)
0x5b787d78 : 0x1584a8 (0x7bdff20 0x3 0x19318b94 0x19318b90)
0x5b787db8 : 0x12d506 (0xaf61b9c 0x19318b6c 0x0 0x0)
0x5b787df8 : 0x126609 (0xaf61b00 0x0 0x28 0x5b787ee4)
0x5b787f08 : 0x198153 (0x5b787f44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x5b787fc8 : 0x1a0977 (0x12716fc0 0x0 0x10 0x0)
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xbfffe8e8

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: pmTool

Mac OS version:
9G55

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: iMac8,1 (Mac-F227BEC8)

Any solutions and/or HD/SW areas to look for answers? I did a hardware test and used Rember to test RAM as well.

Is there a third party app that helps ID the KP source?


Thanks,

Grant

iMac 24" 3.06 Mhz, Mac OS X (10.5.6), 4 GB Crucial memory
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (95,950 points)
    Hi Grant,

    Despite the fact you've gone through the KP fixes per Apple, try here.
    Resolving Kernel Panics - L Lab

    Thread here regarding the "simple lock deadlock detection" ...http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=11931

    Check out the post by "bobw" here. Very bottom in the window. http://macosx.com/forums/archive/t-36226.html

    Grant, how much free disk space is there? Right or control click the MacintoshHD icon on your Desktop, then click: Get Info. In the Get Info window, click the discovery triangle so it's facing down. You will see; Capacity and Available Make sure you have 10% available disk space, 15% is better. Insufficient available space, can cause performance issues, system corruption, and possible loss of data.

    The KP points to two applications sharing the same resource. Perhaps running two browsers at once?




    Carolyn
  • Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks,Carolyn. I have almost 505 of my 500 GB HD available. You and another most gave me some ideas.

    Deadlock may be part of it as the KPs happen when there are several items open.

    Thanks,

    Grant
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (95,950 points)
    Hi Grant,

    Not free disk space... process of elimination!

    You could try the 10.5.6 combo update available here. http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_6_ComboUpdate

    This update *includes general operating system fixes* that enhance the stability, compatibility and security of your Mac.

    If you do this, make sure and run Disk Utility and repair disk permissions after the install.
    Launch Disk Utility. (Applications/Utilities) Select MacintoshHD in the panel on the left, select FirstAid, then click: Repair Disk Permissions. Quit DU when it's finished and reboot.







    Carolyn
  • Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I meant 50% not 505 earlier. I update to 10.5.6, but I will do the combo and follow up step as you suggest. Glad I tried this.


    Grant
  • Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Unfortunately I'm still getting kernel panics:

    Wed Apr 8 21:01:16 2009
    panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A9C68): Kernel trap at 0x011943d6, type 13=general protection, registers:
    CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x007f5000, CR3: 0x015cb000, CR4: 0x00000660
    EAX: 0x00000001, EBX: 0x46f6b000, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x46f6b2f8
    CR2: 0x007f5000, EBP: 0x5b426a38, ESI: 0x46f6b178, EDI: 0x46f6b308
    EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x011943d6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x46db0010
    Error code: 0x0000b178

    Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
    0x5b426818 : 0x12b4f3 (0x45b13c 0x5b42684c 0x1335e4 0x0)
    0x5b426868 : 0x1a9c68 (0x464700 0x11943d6 0xd 0x463e9c)
    0x5b426948 : 0x1a038d (0x5b426960 0xa030204 0x5b426a38 0x11943d6)
    0x5b426958 : 0x11943d6 (0xe 0x48 0x5b420010 0x1130010)
    0x5b426a38 : 0x114188a (0x46f6b000 0x1 0x0 0x0)
    0x5b426a78 : 0x113431c (0x46f6b000 0x46dbc000 0x1 0x100)
    0x5b426ac8 : 0x11356f6 (0x46dbc000 0x1 0x800 0x0)
    0x5b426b38 : 0x43e858 (0x46dbc000 0xf841574 0x5b426d9c 0x28)
    0x5b426b78 : 0x43f40b (0x119d168 0x46dbc000 0xf841574 0x28)
    0x5b426bd8 : 0x43cfb4 (0x46dbc000 0xf 0x5b426c20 0x0)
    0x5b426cf8 : 0x18e4eb (0x46dbc000 0xf 0xf841570 0x0)
    0x5b427db8 : 0x12d506 (0xf841548 0x103ba5a0 0x0 0x0)
    0x5b427df8 : 0x126609 (0xf841500 0x0 0x7c 0x5b427ee4)
    0x5b427f08 : 0x198153 (0x5b427f44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
    0x5b427fc8 : 0x1a0977 (0x76a95e0 0x0 0x1a30b5 0x127e6790)
    No mapping exists for frame pointer
    Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xbffed678
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(5.3.6)@0x1117000->0x11aefff
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(5.3.6)@0xc65000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.1)@0xc57000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.5)@0x5c6000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.1)@0xc05000

    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

    Mac OS version:
    9G55

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386
    System model name: iMac8,1 (Mac-F227BEC8)

    It seems to happen when I'm using Firefox, and may be connected to a Webex type virtual team space I use called Blackboard as part of my graduate studies. I think I'm usually logged into Blackboard when this happens.

    Thanks,

    Grant
  • Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I will use Internet Explorer on Parallels when using Blackboard. Their help files say Mac OS 10.5 is not supported. Silly, but possibly my KP source?

    Thanks,

    Grant
  • Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (95,950 points)
    You went right over my head with Blackboard. Hopefully someone else with kp experience can help.





    Carolyn
  • Grant_M Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks, Carolyn.

    It's a kind of webinar service. Pretty RAM intensive.


    Grant