MPEG-2 vs. mini DV - Which is better quality?

I want to transfer video from VHS tapes into iMovie. Which is going to give me better quality?:

A) Copy VHS to mini DV tape on my camcorder and then import into iMovie.

or

B) Copy VHS to DVD with my VHS/DVD recorder combo player and then transfer the DVD to iMovie using Apple MPEG-2 Player.

Thanks!
David

Posted on Oct 8, 2005 11:07 PM

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Oct 9, 2005 12:05 PM in response to David Kravetz

VHS to DV gives the best possible quality.

VHS to MPEG-2 uses much more compression than the miniscule compression used by DV, so you get a lower quality copy, and then you lose some quality when unscrambling the MPEG-2 to bring it into iMovie.

Use DV, then you'll have a true digital copy which you edit several times over, and still keep the original quality!

Oct 10, 2005 1:14 AM in response to Scalzmoney

Hi Greg,

VERY good question! I think, we have three groups:
* the poor guys who have bought a "dvd camcorder"...- I don't have a clue, why I should record on a mini-dvd instead of a cheap tape...- the compression codec used on such machines is by definition! no editable format, so you allways need workarounds...
there should be a warning on that boxes "for playback only!"
( besides: the mpeg2-format allows to store video that way, you can edit it later, has to do with i-Frames etc... but that is not the way, Sony & Co goes...)
* using "older" homebrewn dvds...- ok, maybe somewhere are the old tapes... but where? and on that tape where do I find THAT scene? isn't it easier, to throw the DVD I made and copy that into iM?..... again: people see the fantastic pic quality of a DVD made with iDVD and think, "press play and record!".. THAT would be nice 😉
* re-edit commercial DVDs... you made your personal version of StarWars, Episode XVII, and you are not that good in CGI as ILM... so, you want to copy a few frames from the disc on your shelf...- or, "forget all that plot, I want all Bruce Lee fighting scenes on ONE disc!" (<< ... "favorites", as we do in iTunes with playlist!)

you could make BIG Bucks with a 49$ tiny, shiny white box, analogue-in >> firewire out, which is recognized by iM....- ;-))

Oct 10, 2005 10:49 AM in response to David Kravetz

I think there is yet another reason: In the PC world it seems that the computers are configured in a way that allows direct MPEG import from camcorders, and they are also configured to allow importing of movies directly via the USB connection. If you wander over to one of the many discussion groups involving movie editing on a PC, people are totally frustrated trying to download movies via USB. Many people in these boards don't even know what the Firewire connection is for. And, the PC world is loaded with programs that allow direct importing of video from pre-recorded DVDs. I think the questions about this naturally gravitate over to any movie-editing forum, like this one.

Oct 10, 2005 3:13 PM in response to Mark Singer1

Thanks Mark!

I didn't know that I could use my camcorder in "pass-through" mode. I checked the manual and there is a setting "AV->DV" that you need to set each time the camera is turned on for it to work. It works great! Super quality and I save the step of having to copy from VHS to miniDV first, and then import to iMovie. The camera just becomes an analog to digital converter. Love it!

David

Oct 15, 2005 9:15 PM in response to Daniel Filice

There are no DV camcorders that "allow direct MPEG import" to PC's. Even the DVD cameras expect the DVD to be finalized and then used in the PC DVD player. The USB is for the transfer of the picture card data. One exception are the JVC hard disk MPEG-2 models in which case the USB is used to mount the camera on the desktop to drag and drop the hard disk content form the camera. So an interesting guess but not very accurate.

Oct 16, 2005 1:54 AM in response to Ricktoronto

Hi Rick,

as the expert for "Get for free Steamclip....", my observation in this forum is about 2/3 is DVD, 1/3 is dvd-camcorders... these %$§*&-machines are a pest!

funny enough, have you seen lately that Sony TV-commercial, people record and jump to anybodies living-room, throwing in that dvd-r...? no editing... as I said before: even the extreme-Dogma-guys from Danmark wouldn't dare ;-))

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