13 Replies Latest reply: Apr 5, 2009 1:32 PM by Terence Devlin
Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
This is a small symptom of some bigger issue I suppose but one that bothers me the most....

I upgraded to iPhoto 09 last week and, among other problems, my choices for using albums for a screensaver has disappeared. When I open up the Desktop and Screen Saver utility and choose user>pictures> the iPhoto Library is grayed out, not a choice.

I've upgraded to 8.0.2, I backed up and done the Apple/option key hold down while launching iPhoto to rebuild but so far no change.

Any other help?


iMac G5, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)
    Where is your Library? Are you running a Managed or a Referenced Library?

    If you're running a Managed library, then it's the default setting, and iPhoto copies files into the iPhoto Library when Importing

    If you're running a Referenced Library, then you made a change at iPhoto -> Preferences -> Advanced and iPhoto is NOT copying the files into the iPhoto Library when importing.


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    Terence, thanks for trying to help me out. I'll try to answer your questions.

    Where is my Library? Not sure about the answer but perhaps this will help.

    One way I can see my entire library of photos, sorted by years>rolls>image xxx (the order I was used to seeing them before the upgrade) is by using the Finder. Here I can search for "All Images" and when I select one of the images I can see this path at the bottom of the pane:

    User>Pictures>iPhoto Library>Data>2006>Roll xx>Image_xxx.jpg

    But, using Finder, I can't get to these same images by navigating this way:

    User>Pictures>iPhoto Library

    When I get to iPhoto Library there is no option to expand and select an individual photo, the only option is to launch iPhoto. And that's basically what I run into in trying to select photos to be used as a screen saver. In the Desktop/Screen Saver window, under "Pictures" I have a choice of "Choose Folder" which opens a navigation window which opens with "User" as the default starting point, I choose "Pictures" which leads me to a couple of options including a grayed out iPhoto Library. A dead end.

    Long answer there that may not address the question but there you go.

    Managed or Referenced Library? Not sure. How could I tell? I can tell you that for over the 2.5 years or so that I've used this mac I have, up till now, used iPhoto "out of the box". No special settings, nothing fancy, I've just uploaded photos from my camera and let iPhoto manage them and they have always been where I expected them to be. Easy to find and easy to access.

    Thanks for any insights.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)
    Have a look at the illustration of the ‘Open ... Dialogue below. Can you access the Library under Media, as indicated?

    Some FYI:

    Beware of using the ‘All Images’ Saved search in the Finder. Manipulating photos by means of that will damage your Library.

    With iPhoto 7 (iLife 08) the old iPhoto Library Folder is now a Unix Style Package File. The change was made to the format of the iPhoto library because many users were inadvertently corrupting their library by browsing through it with other software or making changes in it themselves.

    There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:

    *For Users of 10.5 Only*

    You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Apple-Click for selecting multiple pics.

    Open dialogue
    Uploaded with plasq's Skitch!

    You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:

    New Message Window
    Uploaded with plasq's Skitch!

    *For users of 10.4 and 10.5* ...

    Many internet sites such as Flickr and SmugMug have plug-ins for accessing the iPhoto Library. If the site you want to use doesn’t then some, one or any of these will also work:

    To upload to a site that does not have an iPhoto Export Plug-in the recommended way is to Select the Pic in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export and export the pic to the desktop, then upload from there. After the upload you can trash the pic on the desktop. It's only a copy and your original is safe in iPhoto.

    This is also true for emailing with Web-based services. However, if you're using Gmail you can use iPhoto2GMail

    If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.

    If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.

    *If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running*:

    Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser

    Other options include:

    1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.

    2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.

    3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.

    You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    Yes, when I click on "Photos" I see all of my photos under a pane that appears to be my Source List.
  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)
    Well that means that iPhoto is Sharing correctly, and points the finger at the ScreenSaver rather than iPhoto.

    I’m not sure what plist file governs the ScreenSaver. Might be worth posting on the Using Mac OS X forum here:


    You mention in your first post that this might be a symptom of a bigger problem - what problem?


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    Problems identical to what others are experiencing......

    Incorrect dates being applied to existing photos so that they are combined with others in events that don't make sense. While I can correct the dates that doesn't "unbundle" the photos from others with different dates. iPhoto has somehow decided that these photos belong together as an event no matter what I say.

    Unable to delete photos. Whether I right click on a photo and choose "Send to Trash", create an album and try to delete the whole thing, try to trash one or several photos, or any other method I can think of; I end up getting the dreaded beach ball and eventually have to force quit.

    And probably some others I have forgotten.
  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)
    Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the apple and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks but I tried that already. No changes that I can see.

    Here's an odd thing....when I switch to my wife being the user, I can get her screen saver to act normally. All her events are listed and I can choose any event to be the source of the screen saver.

    What's that tell us?
  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)

    She has a working library and you don’t.

    Next step: Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. This will create a new library based on data in the albumdata.xml file. Not everything will be brought over - no slideshows, books or calendars,, faces or places for instance - but it should get all your albums and keywords back.

    Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    And what does this work around, which worked for me, tell us?

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,900 points)
    It tells us that the problem with the ScreenSaver is not an iPhoto issue - as we discovered already. And that has nothing to do with your other issues.


  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    I've been holding off a bit on the iPL download. I figure that every week that goes by will result in a slightly more stable version of it being available.

  • Mnash56 Level 1 (0 points)
    Regarding the Screen Saver, I'm glad to have a workaround for now.

    Considering the number and consistency of iPhoto issues I think most of us would consider these iPhoto issues. But, whatever. Just happy that I didn't loose any photos. Everything else I can live with.

    Thanks for your help Terence