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Tiger in the Beige G3 and A Few Observations on it's Behaviour..

I am SO happy!

I'd been trying to get Tiger into my Frankenbeige for almost a year. I pulled all the PCI cards out and left IN the 1.0Ghz Sonnett ZIF card - it runs w/o the Sonnet Enabler and self-reports as a G4 600mhz card.

It was an almost flawless install but for the screen blacking out thing RIGHT as it was getting ready to have me switch to the second install disk.

That was easy enough to recover from, by rebooting back through XPostFacto4 and picking up the install - I ended up just fiddling with the mouse and keeping it 'awake' through the finish. (would have to do the same thing with my Panther installs to get them to take)

First thing to install was the Sonnet software, THEN reboot back to OS 9 and shut down.

Installed the Radeon 9200, the USB card and the FireWire AND swapped out the Apple CD drive I'd installed with, to the Pioneer SuperDrive.

4 PRAM zaps later all the hardware is sitting pretty and then boot into Tiger.

Heaven.

I'd been trying to finger out a way to get the networking from OS9 to OSX on my home network to function right and it just never did anything but hang if a file bigger than 500k was transferred.

As the beige is officially the Household Jukebox, since it's connected to the stereo system and I burn my vinyl LPs and tapes into it, it was getting old moving all the mp3's around with the external hard drive or the memory sticks - ALSO, OS9 only supported USB 1.1 so it was s-l-o-w-e-r than molasses in winter moving files on OR off the externals.

Once Tiger was in I took ALL the system updates before ANYTHING else, so there'd be NO conflicts on any later installed software.

I discovered last night with the latest QuickTime installed and the Perian codec pack in that MOST of the DiVX avi files I have will play smoothly! The high res stuff is right out but running on the native monitor resolution of 1024x768 in fullscreen mode only uses 65-90% of the processor and the bus manages to sustain the video handily. There's only a few points that I'll notice frames dropping and oddly enough, it's in places where there's low action onscreen so I think it may be an issue with coding compression that isn't visible on faster machines.

iTunes took FOREVER to load the library and if there is a way to get around that album art indexing - it took LONGER than the OS install! - I'd love to know about it. I don't care about the 'cover flow' view, it's an eye-candy function I've no interest in whatsoever.

My Unsanity ShapeShifter control panel took well enough but the CrystalClear skin, with the alpha channel input manager put the video right into flick-o-vision mode, so that was a wash. Shame too, since that is the prettiest skin with video running over it there is, esp. if you have a dark desktop as I do.

I DID need to get PatchBurn4 to make the SuperDrive play nice, I believe not having it in the computer when I installed Tiger was the culprit, but after three failed Tiger installs WITH it I decided the CD-ROM was probably a safer bet.

Right now, I've got some .shn files of Grateful Dead shows being unpacked on the Beige and it's chugging along quite nicely. I may see how it handles hulu.com later today, though I don't hold out much hope - anyways the video is a fun extra, the music is the main focus of the thing, and having it run over the home network is the icing on the cake.

I am SO happy with this! Not bad for a 10 year old box. Not at all.

Deb.

MacPro 2.6Ghz w/2 dumpster-dive CRT monitors.., Mac OS X (10.4.11), Beige G3 MT w/1Ghz Sonnet G4 ZIF w/ OS 9.2.2 and 10.4.11

Posted on Apr 5, 2009 8:37 AM

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Sep 7, 2009 7:35 AM in response to Niteshooter

Hey Niteshooter!

Not only did I take a compressor to it I completely removed the case, opened it up and cleaned it out that way. Actually the thing is working perfectly if the pin-out voltage charts I found were correct.

I also checked the jumpers and they are correct - I did think maybe someone had tried changing them as I did find a few splotches of solder in the case, but for the life of me, I could not see any re-work done - unless whomever did it was a diva..

As to the card, let me see... it is a FirmTek SeriTek/1S2 with dual ports.

My initial thought for a case mod was something in a steampunk motif, but after checking my brass fitting connection - there's stuff available if I want to spend $$ (which I don't) so it may end up being more art nouveau.

I have wood, not metal, on hand to use.

I spent this morning going over in my head all the pieces I have and the shapes I can make. I'd like to inverse hang the motherboard and have the fans underneath drawing air in and venting it out the back through slots along the PCI cards. Not sure about this, it may involve me modifying the metal mounting tangs on the cards - at least on the Radeon 9200 as that thing runs hot. I'd still need to vent the space above the main board to keep it from overheating on top.

Hrmmm.. Still playing with ideas here..

Deb.

Sep 26, 2009 7:04 PM in response to Deborah Terreson

And so it begins.. A really nice wooden box scrounged out of the basement, (love the dovetail corners) and the beige in bits.

Tomorrow I start to cut down the metal chassis of the tower to fit, I'm going to try and keep some of the more useful parts, for creating a bridge for the grounding, and as support for the backside - the PCI cards and the I/O ports specifically.

http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/BitsAndBobs.JPG

Deb.

Sep 27, 2009 1:10 PM in response to Deborah Terreson

Nice cabinet. Looks really sturdy, too.

Strictly speaking, those corners are not dovetail joints but Box joints. They can be made with a jig on a table saw (dado blade optional).. Old dovetail joints (wider at the inside than the outside) had to be cut by hand with a fine saw.

There is now a special tapered bit you can use with a jig for a router (the motorized kind, not the Ethernet kind) that can make a pretty good imitation of a real dovetail joint. the slightly rounded inside corners are hidden inside the joint.

Sep 27, 2009 2:24 PM in response to Niteshooter

Dang you've got good eyes Niteshooter - would you believe it's about 1/8 of an inch smaller than the keyboard?

Here's a rough sketch of the idea I'm working with so far.

http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/IdeaSoFar.JPG

The box joints (thanks Grant!) probably will be hidden by the legs.

Until I get one apart and see how big it really is sans plastic, I'm still not certain of the keyboard sled and how I can make it fit under/between the legs.

Will fry that chicken later.

Deb.

Sep 27, 2009 9:03 PM in response to Glen Doggett

Ooo, I dunno. Magnets and hard drives in proximity always give me the willies. I will use the pokey speaker that came with, though I'm nowhere close to laying out where I'm going to put it.

I'd like to use that Audiophile 2496 sound card, though the sound will get run out to the stereo. In the short time I had it in the 2002 Quiksilver, I managed to rip one LP, and it sounds so much better than audio run through the PERCH card. I can also use it under Tiger, if I so desire, whereas only the mini-phono ports work in X.

Will need to pick up a FireWire/USB combo card eventually - having only 3 PCI slots - definitely a limiter - unless I decide to kick the Radeon in the head and use the on-board video. That way I'll have an extra slot and I can put in the SATA card, though it'll be a long time before the 120GB drive I've got would be filled with mp3's.

Maybe I'll go hit the local pawn shops and see if I can find speakers and make little mahogany details to match the CPU case.. hmmmm... (oop! more ideas!)

🙂

Deb.

Nov 7, 2009 11:50 AM in response to Deborah Terreson

Just a quick note on the beige.. It's now happily ensconced in the nifty wooden case.. Took some system upgrades last night and loaded the newest iTunes.

Now the legs on this are a bit long - in fact I plan to lose five or six inches off the bottom, once the lowest shelf is put on, it's going to be the same size as the tabletop. I have the mahogany, but it was primed so I've got to sand and strip it all and that is taking time.

http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/DSC03011.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/DSC03012.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/DSC03015.JPG

The last photo shows the sliding shelf brackets - the top is for the keyboard and mouse, the lower will be the turntable and the bottom will house the reciever/amp. I decided to go for the taller affair to conserve space and get rid of the clunky console box (A 1950's Admiral TV cabinet with doors) that's just too big for the living room. The monitor is going to be a flat-screen that will be mounted to the wall above.

It's slow going while I scrounge parts, but incredibly fun.

Deb.

Nov 27, 2009 10:09 AM in response to Deborah Terreson

Got the tabletop finished.. will need to set it so it doesn't wobble - the drawer that the G3 is in warped from being cut and one side twisted so it's off kilter. I'm not going to fight with it since the motherboard is in an affixed and I don't want to twist it.

http://home.comcast.net/~foodandart/tabletopCPU.jpg

Will cut the legs to even out the tippiness after the base shelf is in. Am killing myself right now, as it's been raining for DAYS and I want to get outside and strip the remaining mahogany.

Deb.

Tiger in the Beige G3 and A Few Observations on it's Behaviour..

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