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mikes mac pro Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Apr 6, 2009 9:56 AM
hey guys,

i was interested in knowing has anyone found appleworks for download or for purchase?

ive been really interested in apple works, i think its one of the most intense and best apps apple ever came out with...it *** they dont have it to purchase....

thanks!
Mac Pro intel core 2 duo, Mac OS X (10.4.11), double partition also 10.5.6 with 8GB ram and 500 GB HD
  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (63,940 points)
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    Apr 6, 2009 10:24 AM (in response to mikes mac pro)
    This thread has a couple of suggestions as to where to buy it:

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8790505&#8790505

    However: I agree with you that AppleWorks is one of the most remarkable computer programs ever written: easy to use, surprisingly powerful, small footprint, inexpensive. I've been using it for 16 years and have a big investment in databases and WP documents etc.

    But: I would hesitate to recommend anyone to start using it now. It is no longer supported by Apple: and though in fact it works very well on Leopard, no-one knows how long it will survive system updates. It's a PPC program, and so depends on Rosetta: this may or may not be included with future versions of OSX. You might be OK in two years time and find in five years time that a new computer won't run it. Or it might - no-one knows. But to start committing yourself to it now may be short-sighted.

    The problem is finding a replacement. Pages isn't bad, though it won't do everything the WP module of AW will. It can open AW WP documents, and even some draw documents (with a little fiddling about): Numbers will open AW spreadsheets but a few Functions aren't included. It's not possible to embed a spreadsheet in a Pages document as you can in an AW WP document.

    The real problem is the database. Bento is a very simple database for inexperienced users and can't remotely approach the power of the AW DB module. FileMaker Pro can't actually import AW databases, though you can import the data (losing layouts and functions in the process): I don't know whether you can achieve everything that AW can, though very possibly you can - however the program is a professional product and is very expensive. The database in Open Office is a nightmare. There are a few others about, but I'll bet you can't come anywhere near the power of the AW database.

    But to re-itereate: Appleworks works fine now. In a very few years time it may or may not, and you should think hard before investing effort in it.
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  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,760 points)
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    Apr 6, 2009 1:06 PM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)
    Roger Wilmut1 wrote:
    It's not possible to embed a spreadsheet in a Pages document as you can in an AW WP document.


    We may perfectly embed a spreadsheet in Pages: it's named "table" but it has the same structure than Numbers tables.

    The drawback are that we can't use checkboxes, popups, sliders and steppers
    and that in Pages a table is restricted to 65 columns.

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 6 avril 2009 22:06:15)
    To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (63,940 points)
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    Apr 6, 2009 2:49 PM (in response to KOENIG Yvan)
    We may perfectly embed a spreadsheet in Pages: it's named "table" but it has the same structure than Numbers tables.


    Does it indeed act like a spreadsheet (as do spreadsheet frames in AppleWorks)? - so that you can, for example sum a column? - if so it's more useful than I thought.
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  • Barry Level 7 Level 7 (29,095 points)
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    Apr 7, 2009 6:51 PM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)
    "Does it indeed act like a spreadsheet (as do spreadsheet frames in AppleWorks)? - so that you can, for example sum a column? - if so it's more useful than I thought."

    This is from Chapter 9 of the Pages '09 Users Guide:

    Use formulas and functions in table cells. For more information about this topic,
    choose Help > “iWork Formulas and Functions Help” or Help > “iWork Formulas and
    Functions User Guide.”


    Some functions, I think, were available in Pages '08; more are available in '09.
    Chapter 10 of the Guide tells how to make charts using numeric data in Tables in Pages.

    Regards,
    Barry
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,760 points)
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    Apr 8, 2009 10:08 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)
    Oops

    I'm so busy with the import script than I missed your question.

    Tables in Pages are true spreadsheets.

    Alas there are seriously restrained.

    - no more than 65 columns
    - no external references between tables
    - no checkbox, popup, stepper and slider

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 8 avril 2009 19:08:33)
    To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (63,940 points)
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    Apr 8, 2009 10:11 AM (in response to KOENIG Yvan)
    Thanks Yvan: I've now been able to try it and it works as you say. Of course, if you import a WP document containing a spreadsheet frame into Pages it gets converted into a table, so you have to recreate it from Numbers.
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  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,760 points)
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    Apr 9, 2009 2:34 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)
    This is why my script stores also an AppleWorks spreadsheet document with the embedded spreadsheet if it is using more than 65 columns.

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 9 avril 2009 11:34:39)
    To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

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