7 Replies Latest reply: Apr 7, 2009 9:43 PM by Malcolm Rayfield
bdmsk8 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi, I'm purchasing a new monitor and trying to choose between a Samsung 19" SyncMaster 920 and the Apple Cinema display 24".

When I called Apple to compare specs the tech told me the only difference is a few inches and resolution.

???Can anyone tell me why the Apple is hundreds of dollars more? Is one better for vision?

Thank you!

Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • Malcolm Rayfield Level 7 Level 7 (28,070 points)
    Hi, I'm purchasing a new monitor and trying to choose between a Samsung 19" SyncMaster 920 and the Apple Cinema display 24".

    When I called Apple to compare specs the tech told me the only difference is a few inches and resolution.

    You should call Apple and report that tech.
    ???Can anyone tell me why the Apple is hundreds of dollars more? Is one better for vision?

    The displays are very different.
    <http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html>
    <http://www.samsung.com/uk/business/b2b/pdfs/products/displays/desktops/sm920n.p df>

    Yes, the Apple display is larger, and higher resolution, but that is not a minor difference. There are many other differences.

    The Apple display is brighter: 330 vs 250 cd/m²

    has higher contrast 1000:1 vs 700:1

    has a wider viewing angle 178º vs 160º so there is much less color change when not viewing straight on.

    uses digital video input instead of VGA for a sharper image.

    has speakers, microphone, and a camera.

    has a USB 2.0 hub.

    has LED backlight.

    provides power to Apple laptops

    Note: the Apple display will work only with the latest Macs with Mini DisplayPort.

    If all you care about is price, then the cheaper one is better, of course.
  • bdmsk8 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    thank you for you knowledge and quick reply.
  • BucksCountyBob Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    The critical difference (and the one that is not mentioned here, or in either spec, for that matter) is the technology used in the display. Although both displays are TFT LCD, the Samsung is likely using TN technology, while the Apple display uses S-IPS. S-IPS produces a far better and more consistent picture, that does not change with slight movements of your head. On a TN display, even a slight movement of your head will produce color changes, making the display unusable if you plan to do PROFESSIONAL QUALITY photo editing.

    On the flip side, S-IPS technology has a much slower refresh rate, which means that if you are buying your display in order to play games, you will likely be very disappointed with your very expensive purchase. TN technology displays will always be cheaper and refresh faster than an S-IPS display.

    I don't play games, so I purchased the Cinema Display. I bought it at a discount from somebody who bought it to play games and didn't understand the difference between the two technologies.

    Regards,

    Bob

    Message was edited by: BucksCountyBob
  • Nadav Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    Is there a way to use the newer display with an adapter for a power mac? I see Apple discontinued the 20 inch and 23 inch Cinema displays, and the one with the mini display port I saw in the Apple store that there is a mini-display port adapter to VGA or DVI so that older macs can make use of it also.
  • Malcolm Rayfield Level 7 Level 7 (28,070 points)
    Is there a way to use the newer display with an adapter for a power mac?

    No. There are no adapters to use the new display with a graphics card that does not have a Mini DisplayPort, and they are available for only the Mac Pro.
    I see Apple discontinued the 20 inch and 23 inch Cinema displays, and the one with the mini display port I saw in the Apple store that there is a mini-display port adapter to VGA or DVI so that older macs can make use of it also.

    The adapters are to use VGA or DVI displays with computers that have Mini DisplayPorts. There are no adapters to use Mini DisplayPort displays with computers that have VGA or DVI ports. So new computers can use old displays, but old computers cannot use new displays.
  • Nadav Level 3 Level 3 (565 points)
    I think Apple's logic is kind of messed up and it seems that if it continues to do these things, it will lose customers and loyal past Apple customers.
  • Malcolm Rayfield Level 7 Level 7 (28,070 points)
    I think the logic is:

    1) Existing Macs already have displays, so there is not a big market for adapters to connect the new display to older Macs.

    2) Older Macs are often replaced with new Macs, but the old display is still used, so there is a market for adapters to connect old displays to new Macs.

    3) New Macs, that are not replacing older ones, may need displays. Mac Pros and Mac Minis need at least one, iMacs and laptops may add a second display. No adapters needed, but they should have made both ports Mini DisplayPorts on Mac Pro graphics cards and Mac Minis so they could use two of the new displays.

    For example, I use my 7 year old 22" ADC display with my Mac Pro. Apple still sells the DVI to ADC adapter for this. They do not sell an adapter to use a newer DVI display with my old ADC computer (although the adapters are still available elsewhere).