Multiple views of same document

On the bottom left of the Pages WP window is the Zoom percentage and on top of the zoom drop down options for one up or two up. Two up may be useful and is probably the nearest to the split screen option you are used to.
S.

You could refer to the Pages Help item "Using Hyperlinks and Bookmarks" to see if that would be of any use. But if you are wanting to copy-and-paste from one place to another in a single document, why not make a copy of your document (click on it's icon in Finder and press command+D), then open both side-by-side. It's probably safer than working a single document in two views -- you'll always have an unaltered version until you're absolutely ready to commit to your intended changes.

Some time ago, someone asked for this feature.
I posted a script doing the trick.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9223808

Copy the script in the Script Editor and use Find / Replace to replace every occurence of "Numbers" by "Pages".

Of course, they are available in my iDisk:
<http://idisk.me.com/koenigyvan-Public?view=web>

Download:
For_iWork:iWork '09:for Pages09:opentwice.zip

For_iWork:iWork '09:for Numbers09:opentwice.zip

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 11 avril 2009 19:06:22)

Sorry this doesn't help at all. You see only more at ONE position of the document. Not good for copying/moving.

Thanks!

I tried to download your open_twice.zip by dragging it to the desktop, but it didn't work.
How can it be downloaded?

And please... Could you explain in a few sentences HOW your solution works?

I have mixed feelings using a script I don't know, if I don't know what it does on my computer.

At the beginning of the script you may read:

Save the script as a Script, an Application or an Application Bundle: open_twice.xxx
Move the newly created application into the folder:
<startup Volume>:Users:<yourAccount>:Library:Scripts:Applications:Pages:
Maybe you would have to create the folder Pages and even the folder Applications by yourself.
menu Scripts > Pages > open_twice
Navigate to choose a Pages document.
This one will be duplicated in the folder Temp,
open by Pages which will also open the original.
The window of this one will be pushed to the screen's left edge.
The temporary document will be write-protected.
You may also save the script as an Application Bundle on the Desktop.
Drag & Drop a Pages document's icon on the script's icon to achieve tha same goal.
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The Finder's Help explains:
To make the Script menu appear:
Open the AppleScript utility located in Applications/AppleScript.
Select the "Show Script Menu in menu bar" checkbox.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 4 mai 2009 19:10:24)

Thanks, so this is the download button! 🙂
(I didn't see the wood for the trees!)

Even though I've read the text which is hidden in the script,
it's still not clear how it works and how I can work with it.
Can you (or somebody who has already used it) please explain?
Thanks!

Thanks, so this is the download button! 🙂

It's the default GUI in the iDisk.
I try to write useful scripts but refuse to waste time upon GUI details.

Install the script in the Script Menu as described in the intro.

When you want to open a document with two windows, don't do that from the Open menu but from the "Open twice" one which will be available in the Scripts menu.
You will be asked to navigate to the document.
When it will be selected, the script will store a replicate of the file in the system's temporary items folder and will open this replicate (as read only) and the standard document so you will have two windows with the same document which is, if I understood well, what you need.


This screenshot shows the way the script is stored.


This one shows my own Scripts menu.


this late one shows the two windows on the screen (note that the one on the right claims that it is 'locked' "verrouillé" in French).

CAUTION

I discovered that the version installed in the idisk is not the late one.
Download the late one to get a correct behavior.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 4 mai 2009 21:04:40)

Thank you for this Yvan,

It does help.

Does this do what users expect from other applications like AppleWorks or MsWord, that is show an up to date version of the document, not just what it was saved to before opening?

Peter

I carefully wrote that the second document is a read-only one.

It's what was asked by the user for which I wrote the beast.

As far as I know, building a script for a living second window would require this scheme :
(1) save the document 1, (not a bad thing)
(2) duplicate the new copy into the temporary folderas read only
(3) close the window 2
(4) open the new replicate.

Not only it would be slow
but when it will open, the new window 2 will open as it is in window 1, not with the cursor in an other area as we may assume that it was.

If you think that the game may be useful, I may write a variation upon the original script.

I try to do my best to help but I can't replace pieces of code which wheren't included tn the application.

Since AppleWorks which was not designed by engineers but by "quite geniuses" I'm unaware of a Apple product offering two living windows of the same document. Maybe my memory fails but, on this precise point, I would be glad to learn that I remember wrongly.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 4 mai 2009 22:13:36)

Thanks, so this is the download button!

It's the default GUI in the iDisk.
I try to write useful scripts but refuse to waste time upon GUI details.

Sorry, I never used iDisk before. I also have never seen this button as a direct download button.

Regarding your Script:

Now that I've understood what it does I think that's not enough for me.
It would be the same as using a PDF version for the second window, what someone else suggested.
I need to move parts of the document from one window to the other (for example to sort long lists).
Sorry again and thanks for your efforts!

Yvan,

AppleWorks was not unique in being able to split the window to show 2 views of the document. Most Word Processors I know have that ability.

True Apple has gone backwards on this feature, as it has on many things.

Peter