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Q: Questions about Power Macintosh G3 (need a helping hand, please)

I have a Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) while I'm trying to install Mac OS 8.6, I got this error message: +The software needed to use USB device (eh, I forgat the word here, could it be MID?) compliant keyboard cannot be found . Please refer to the device documentation to install the necessary software+

The thing is that I have 128 of Ram... and, uh, is it possible to install this without mac keyboard? I tried to install through USB keyboard Logitech. Does it have to be a mac keyboard obligatory?

Also, how to change/take apart and put CD rom in "Spare Drive Bay"? Does anyone have any manual about this?

Thank you for the answers, I'll appreciate every little detail I can get out of this

Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White), Windows XP

Posted on Apr 13, 2009 3:53 PM

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  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Apr 13, 2009 5:48 PM in response to riversofmilk
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    Apr 13, 2009 5:48 PM in response to riversofmilk
    The missing word is probably Open Host Controller Interface (OHCI) .

    Your Blue & White G3 should provide support for devices that seem to meet the OHCI specification. It also has a round ADB port at the top of the i/O panel which will support an ADB keyboard (used on previous Macs) if you prefer.

    If it won't let you proceed, unplug the keyboard and just use the mouse. Once the software is up and running and connected to the Internet, you may be able to download a driver for your keyboard.
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Apr 13, 2009 5:38 PM in response to riversofmilk
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    Apr 13, 2009 5:38 PM in response to riversofmilk
    A CD ROM will not go in a Spare drive bay, because they are either too small (the Zip drive slot) or not accessible AND too small (the slots on the bottom shelf. If you want to REPLACE your current CD drive with a better one, the blue faceplate covering the CD and Zip/Blank panel below is removed by pushing inward on the tabs inside the side door, then hinging to the left and removing. This exposes the screws that secure the CD drive in the chassis.
  • by riversofmilk,

    riversofmilk riversofmilk Apr 14, 2009 2:05 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:05 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
    Thank you, but I need to know if I can install with plain keyboard, that is USB keyboard, but not a Mac keyboard? The question in the first place was, does it HAVE to be a Mac keyboard to begin installation?

    And hm, I can't seem to do it only with a mouse, because I don't see where can I install, the mouse is moving, but there's no menu with installation options. I know only how to install Leopard, but this is too confusing... :-/
  • by Appaloosa mac man,

    Appaloosa mac man Appaloosa mac man Apr 14, 2009 11:13 AM in response to riversofmilk
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    Apr 14, 2009 11:13 AM in response to riversofmilk
    riversofmilk,

    "I'm trying to install Mac OS 8.6"

    Is there some specific reason you are wanting 8.6 instead of 9.2? OS 9 gives better USB support which will solve multiple problems for you.

    "I got this error message: The software needed to use USB device / compliant keyboard cannot be found . Please refer to the device documentation to install the necessary software"

    "is it possible to install this without mac keyboard? I tried to install through USB keyboard Logitech. Does it have to be a mac keyboard obligatory?"

    Short answer, no. The more features your keyboard has, the less likely the early OS options are going to recognize your hardware. The keyboard does not have to be a Mac keyboard. It does need to be a simplistic keyboard. Side note: We bought a $10 generic USB keyboard for our Mini. It only took a week for us to decide that the convenience of an apple keyboard was worth the extra $15.

    As for using the spare bay, unless you are handy with a hack saw, why not use the convenience of USB and have external devices that can move from computer to computer, old machines to new machines?

    For hobby projects, you can get most any combination of things to work. That is the educational side. For productivity, find replacement hardware. When G4s can be found for $35, tricking out ANY B&W G3 is of educational value only. If you want to find cheap G4s, email me. It is not my livelihood, just a passion for recycling and minimizing waste. Using PC parts may be cheaper for millions but the experience is less than satisfying. Just my Mac bias surfacing again. C:heers.

    Jim
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Apr 14, 2009 2:48 PM in response to riversofmilk
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    Apr 14, 2009 2:48 PM in response to riversofmilk
    I don't see where can I install


    Mac OS X Leopard DVDs are Installer-only DVDs. Mac OS 8.6 CDs are combination System/Install CDs. When you boot from the 8.6 CD, System 8.6 is loaded and running from the CD, and your Hard drive is available to be Initialized or Installed upon..

    When you boot from the CD, the Installer is not running (until you double click on the "Install Mac OS" or similar-named Icon). The Mac OS 8.6 Installer is an Application that runs under the System 8.6 on the CD. When you launch the Installer, it will Open (without Restarting).

    In most cases, only a mouse is required to do most operations, including Install.