Powermac 8500 USB Card

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Powermac 8500 USB Card

I have bought a PCI USB card for my Powermac 8500. The Card has a Opti 82C861 Firelink chip. This card works with my USB Mouse, Keyboard and Gamepad and I would like to use USB pendrives with my computer. I have tried with my Digitor 2gig USB pendrive but I don't think it is being detected properly. Would this be possible?

The USB card is the only PCI card I have installed in my mac in the bottom slot.
I reinstalled Mac OS 9.0.4 and upgraded it to 9.1 after I installed my USB card.
The installed drivers are whatever Mac OS 9.0.4 and 9.1 have installed and also the USB Adapter Card Support 1.4.1

System Start up (Nothing Plugged in)

System Profile

USB 0 1.4.6 No devices found on this bus.
PCI Slot C1 USB card
Card type : usb
Card name : pci1045,c861
Card model : Not available
Card ROM # : Not available
Card revision : 16
Card vendor ID : 1045

Show USB alerts and events

Show all USB events

86.357: Expert - Initializing disk based USB Expert 1.4.6
94.592: [ 123456789]: UIM - UIMEndpointDelete: Could not find endpoint -6987
94.592: [ 0]: USL - UIMEDDelete did not get lock on UIM 0
94.592: [ 0]: USL - UIMControlEDCreate did not get lock on UIM 0
94.594: [ 0]: USL - setting status to level 3
98.917: [ 75576057]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBHub1Apple - calling driver initialize routine... 0
98.918: [ 75576057]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBHub1Apple - driver initialization completed 0
98.919: [ 75576057]: Driver - Externally powered Hub attached - power supply good 0
100.182: [ 0]: Expert - Bus Enumeration using disk-based drivers (mSec): 5616
100.185: [ 0]: Expert - Could not find Native Power Manager Lib 0
221.191: [ 0]: Driver - • Web Download: FolderMgr: unknown message 0

Plug in a USB Mouse

USB 0 1.4.6 Mouse (Genius Wheel Mouse)
Product ID : 14 ($e)
Vendor : KYE Systems Corp.(Mouse
Systems) (KYE)
Driver version : 1.4.6
Driver : USBHIDMouseDriver
Power (mA) : 500 ($1f4)
Release number : 2.4.2
Serial number :

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372.494: [ 75576044]: Driver - Hub Driver - Device found, calling USBHubAddDevice. Port 2
373.864: [ 75576301]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - calling driver initialize routine... 0
373.869: [ 75576301]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - driver initialization completed 0
374.469: [-1744500223]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDMouseDriver - calling driver initialize routine... 0
374.474: [-1744500223]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDMouseDriver - driver initialization completed 0
374.493: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0

Plug USB Keyboard

USB 0 1.4.6 Keyboard (Compaq USB Keyboard)
Product ID : 82 ($51)
Vendor : Compaq Computer Corporation
(CHICONY)
Driver version : 1.4.6
Driver name : USBHIDKeyboardModule1.4.6
Power (mA) : 500 ($1f4)
Release number : 1.0.5
Serial number :

HID (Compaq USB Keyboard)
Product ID : 81 ($51)
Vendor : Compaq Computer Corporation
(CHICONY)
Driver version : 1.4.6
Driver name : USBHIDDriver
Power (mA) : 500 ($1f4)
Release number : 1.0.5
Serial number :

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Show all USB events

1384.670: [ 75576057]: Driver - Hub Driver - Device found, calling USBHubAddDevice. Port 2
1385.963: [ 75577084]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - calling driver initialize routine... 0
1385.968: [ 75577084]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - driver initialization completed 0
1386.628: [-1744499709]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDKeyboardModule1.4.6 - calling driver initialize routine... 0
1386.634: [-1744499709]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDKeyboardModule1.4.6 - driver initialization completed 0
1387.204: [-1744499452]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDDriver - calling driver initialize routine... 0
1387.210: [-1744499452]: Expert - LoadInterfaceDriver: USBHIDDriver - driver initialization completed 0

Plug in Digitor 2Gig USB pendrive

USB 0 1.4.6 Class 0
Product ID : 357 ($165)
Vendor : Vendor 4871
Driver version : 1.4.6
Driver name : USBCompositeDevice1.4.6
Power (mA) : 500 ($1f4)
Release number : 1.0
Serial number :

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365.241: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Device found, calling USBHubAddDevice. Port 2
365.490: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr -1
365.490: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576064
365.491: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver Error - Setting the device address -6910
365.491: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Set address failed, increasing time 1
365.491: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub driver - disabling dead port 1 2
365.491: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub driver - (1) dead port dead port disabled 2
365.497: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Device found, calling USBHubAddDevice. Port 2
365.725: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Set address failed, giving more time 3
365.766: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr -1
365.766: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576192
365.767: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver Error - Setting the device address -6910
365.768: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Set address failed, increasing time 2
365.768: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub driver - disabling dead port 1 2
365.768: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub driver - (1) dead port dead port disabled 2
365.784: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Device found, calling USBHubAddDevice. Port 2
366.003: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - Set address failed, giving more time 36
366.083: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
366.083: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
366.083: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver Error - Could not re-read all of device descriptor after set address -6915
367.071: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
367.071: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
367.071: [ 75576531]: Expert - Request string descriptor - Error (read entire string) = -6915
367.071: [ 75576531]: Expert - Error returned from GetStringDescriptor: -6915
367.073: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
367.073: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
367.073: [ 75576531]: Expert - Request string descriptor - Error (read string length) - Error = -6910
367.073: [ 75576531]: Expert - Error returned from GetStringDescriptor: -6910
368.552: [ 75576531]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - calling driver initialize routine... 0
368.557: [ 75576531]: Expert - LoadClassDriver: USBCompositeDevice1.4.6 - driver initialization completed 0
368.571: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.584: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.874: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.917: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.921: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.970: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
368.989: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.007: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.041: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver - port Set address failed, giving more time 36
369.041: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.084: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.107: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.148: [ 0]: USL - processDelayQ delayQueueChanged, breaking 0
369.154: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.155: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.155: [ 75576016]: Driver - Hub Driver Error, resetting port - could not re-read full device descriptor after set address -6915
369.254: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.254: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.254: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error 1
369.256: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.256: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.256: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error 1
369.258: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.258: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.258: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error 1
369.259: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.260: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.260: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error 1
369.261: [ 0]: USL - findEndpointAddr 2
369.261: [ 0]: USL - Stalling pipe 75576531
369.261: [ 75576531]: Fatal Error: USBCompositeDriver: Too many retries, -6999, 8194
369.261: [ 75576531]: USL - Cache config descriptors failed with error -6915

Powermac 8500, Mac OS 9.1.x, Sonnet Cresendo G3 300Mhz, 64Mb Ram, 2 1.2Gig harddisks

Posted on Apr 19, 2009 6:02 PM

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Answer 1

Jeff

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Apr 20, 2009 2:18 PM in response to Proxify

Because the "USB Adapter Card Support 1.4.1" drivers pre-date the OS 9.1 Update, you should not use that installer beyond OS 8.6. OS 9.1 provides broader USB support and its included drivers can be manually installed on systems running OS 8.6 for better recognition of devices. You should find the following drivers in the Extensions folder, with #2 being essential for functionality of USB flash/hard drives:

(1) USB Support
(2) USB Mass Storage Support
(3) USB Device Extension
(4) USB Software Locator
(5) HID Library
(6) SerialShimLib
(7) ENETShimLib

How many ports are on the card? On older legacy Macs, I generally installed USB 1.1 cards having 2 ports. An external powered hub is useful, if there are many devices to connect - especially a bus-powered hard drive. I'd also recommend installing more memory. OS 9.1 could use a little more than 64 MBs of installed memory.

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Proxify Author

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Apr 20, 2009 7:13 PM in response to Jeff

It is a 2 port card with the Opti 82C861 Firelink Chip.

I know it could do weth some more RAM but I haven't seen any for sale in New Zealand. I think I had 9.1 running on 32 Mb Ram before I broke the processor card in my other 8500 I had and moved the Harddisk VRAM and RAM into this 8500
(8 8mb RAM cards 4 VRAM cards)

These are the usb extensions I have

(1) USB Support 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
(2) USB Mass Storage Support 2.0.9 Mac Os Z-9.1
(3) USB Device Extension 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
(4) USB Software Locator 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
(5) HID Library 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
(6) SerialShimLib 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
(7) ENETShimLib 1.4.6 Mac Os Z-9.1
USB Mass Storage Extension 2.0.4 USB Adapter Card Support 1.4.1
USB Printer Sharing

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Answer 3

Jeff

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Apr 20, 2009 7:57 PM in response to Proxify

Delete the "USB Mass Storage Extension" (v. 2.0.4), as it is superceded by the "USB Mass Storage Support" (v. 2.0.9) from OS 9.1. Beyond that, you may have to change the USB card to another brand having a different controller chip. USB cards with an NEC controller seem to be more trouble-free in Macs, than cards having an OPTi or VIA controller.

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Proxify Author

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Apr 24, 2009 3:45 PM in response to Jeff

I took my pci USB card out of my MAC and put it in my Win XP and it only worked the mouse, keyboard and gamepad. So I did some research and I think the card was made by an Australian/New Zealand company and is USB 1.0. I think that Keyboards , mice and game pads all conform to this standard and that is why they work and the USB pens need USB 1.1 or higher to work and that is why they are not functioning.

Thanks for all your assistance.

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