excessive amp simulator noise

peacheach wrote:
Does anyone have this same problem on LE8. And can anyone help me with this problem. Whenever I use any of the crunch or distortion amp simulators I experience very excessive noise. I'm running my guitar through an m-audio project mix audio interface. There is no clipping through the interface and in LE8 there is no signal into the red. I have tried using a denoiser and when I use the presets (eg,reduce hiss) they do very little to minimize noise. So I have to manipulate the denoiser so much that weird sounds are produced. However if I plug in an analogue distortion pedal I can use as much gain as I like, no problem. I only just add a little bit of noise gate. Any frustrated guitarist out there. Cheers.

This is part of the amp simulation sound.

I like G A P for certain sounds, but not the high gain distorted ones.

Try Digidesign Eleven, NI Guitar Rig III,or even Line 6 products instead.

The best is a real amp and pedal though...

Cheers

Also check out iZotopes Trash - that's a great distortion/amp simulation/filtering Plug In. There is a demo available:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/trash/

Guitar Amp "Pro" is the biggest disappointment to me in the whole Logic package. Any third party version is superior, as far as I know. I have given some thought to using Izotope's Trash for distortion, since I really want distortion and not the sound of an amp buzzing and cracking up. That's a little too "authentic" for me- why not throw in some grounding issues as well, and maybe a dry rotted speaker, for the real authentic bad amplifier experience.

I was enjoying the Waves GTR solo for a while, they were also giving it away free for a year, but I found it to be a good deal for the $130 or whatever. I also have Amplitube, which is pretty good. And of course Izotope, as has been mentioned, is able to be demo'd.

But I also have a late sixties Fender Princeton, a great amp for recording, at 15 watts you can just put a mic on it and literally turn it all the way up, and you get the actual sound of an amp overdriven, which is hard to duplicate. Good luck, L

+1 Guitar Rig 3. Also, Peaveys Revalver is really good for some sounds. But really, if you can make the the small investment for recording in a room is hard to beat and at least you'll be starting with a good guitar sound to tweak later.

I own Guitar Rig 3, most of the Amplitubes, Nomad's ROCK AMP LEGENDS and just purchased Overloud's TH1.1. TH1 put's them all to shame. The most realistic sounding sim I ever heard. It's just great. I also just purchased a BOSS GS-10 DI/Interface/Multi-Effects unit. I don't use sims anymore as everything a guitarist could ever want is built-in the GS-10. I do turn off the CABS though and use Impulse Responses - much FATTER and REAL sounding.

A while back I invested in an isolation cabinet(called the Deadroom) and I placed a Sennheiser e906 inside. My neighbors don't hate me anymore and also I'm using a decent tube-pre into my Ensemble. I get real guitar tones previously unavailable. I find the cleaner or slightly dirty stuff most difficult to replicate using a plug-in.Beefier and more upfront sounding than the processed studio sound of most amp simulation software devices. The noise of high gain amplification is part of electric guitar and if you know how to minimize hums by moving your guitar away from other equipment or angling perpendicular to wall warts and rack gear,you can get great sounds. Also you can gate out between phrases with good engineering.
I used a pod pro for years while recording and now I listen back to those wimpy tracks and cringe. There in nothing like a real amp setup to make your tones really Pro. Back when CRTs where still in every studio I used to turn off the screens for a take with high gain guitars sounds because i found that even ten feet away they generated a buzz. Now days, I can be close and still manipulate my Axe away from any AC devices and get good low noise stuff.......until my cellphone ruins the take , that is.
GF

Hi All,
Sorry for the late reply. I had the same issue with my firebox and all the simulator I tried (revalver and TH1). I discovered the problem was the poor A/D converter I had on the Firebox. I used the same Logic song and cut the track again in a more pro studio than I own. I discovered that Revalver or TH1 could sounds à la VH 51/50 without any hum or backgound noise.

On the long distance, I'm disatisfied with the presonus firebox because of the inner noise of the hardware that become obvious with guitar sims. software.

You can check at
http://lukemusic.free.fr/LukeMusic/LogicFileexemple.html
I did some testings of A/D converters with different hardware (including motu 828 mkII and firebox and an old neve preamps).

I would like to mention that if you intend to use heavy distortion ( à la VH 51/50), inner noise of the Firebox will make a incredible noise on the track. Check exemple provided. I had a good mix with better A/D converter.

I think I will switch to Ensemble. can some post some testing in the spirit I did mine or get directly in contact with me?

Thanks for charing 😉