How do I transform/skew/change perspective of a photo

Sorry, not quite sure of the correct terminology

I have a load of images that were created with a camera on a tripod, pointing down at the original 10x8 prints.

Unfortunately, the film plane and print place holder were not 100 % parallel to each other.

I think it was in Photoshop on my Windows machine I I used to be able to Edit | Transform | Skew or Free transform something like that.

I cant seem to find it in Aperture, but that could be because I am searching for the incorrect terms in the help.


I do have a copy of PS here on the Mac, but for some reason the Transform options are greyed out...using jpeg images....single layer un edited directly out of the camera.
If I cant do this in Aperture, any PS experts here that can tell me why the options are greyed out.
If it comes to it I can always go back to my Virtual XP install, but I would really like to do it all on the Mac, now I have spent all this money on it. If I gotta go back to XP to do this, it feels like I have wasted money on the Mac.

Thanks

Neil

Mac Pro 3.0Ghz 10Gb RAM 4 x 1Tb HD's, Mac OS X (10.5.6), FreeNAS servers and Other Windoze and Linux machines

Posted on May 5, 2009 6:26 AM

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May 5, 2009 6:45 AM in response to Neil Paisnel

I don't believe there is such a function in Aperture. With PS, depending upon verions, you should either be able to use Crop to Perspective directly on the JPEG, or if you first create a duplicate layer in PS, then the Transform functions should become available to use on that layer, but not the background layer.

As I understand your issue, the straightening tool may not help.

Ernie

Message was edited by: Ernie Stamper

May 5, 2009 6:49 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

Yes, thanks for both ideas.

Yes, it was the layer thing Had to create new layer to do the job.

I do this sort of stuff so infrequently, I always forget that step in PS.

Shame Aperture cant do it though

Thanks for the quick response.

200 pics to do by tonight...just did not want to have to re shoot, just the setup with lights etc took a couple of hours to setup/strip down and pack away again...and then I get the camera skewed to the platform....what a dumbo

Thanks again

Neil

May 5, 2009 7:38 AM in response to Neil Paisnel

Neil and others,

I should probably point out a slight error in my earlier post as would regard Crop to Perspective -- I said you could directly apply to the JPEG, but of course if sent to PS as an external editor of Aperture, the format would be either TIFF or PSD. The only way a JPEG would be passed to PS would be to Export as JPEG, and then open with PS.

But it makes no difference to the possibility of using Crop to Perspective, which would probably also do an excellent job of making the needed corrections for your images.

Ernie

May 5, 2009 9:41 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

OK, I will have a look at that again later.

For speed, I found using iPhoto was best for cropping. So from iPhoto I dragged a thumbnail into the PS icon on the dock. Apple-J to add new layer, then Edit/Transform/Distort to pull the image square again. Save as JPEG, and replaced the old file, the Apple-W, then back to iPhoto, to crop the image. For some reason cropping in PS was slow compared to Cropping in iPhoto. Now idea why, but it works.

Thanks

Neil

May 5, 2009 4:55 PM in response to Ernie Stamper

Sorry that this will be too late for "tonight", but I would ask "Is it necessary that they be absolutely "rectangular"? By this, I mean are the prints of a regular geometric pattern where you have keystoning evident, or are they just pictures of people, backgrounds, etc?

I have this situation all the time copying various old family photos and what I have ended up doing in Aperture is to do my best fit making the image, straighten the images one-by-one as an editing step, then going back and cropping one-by-one. The crop in your case would be using a standard 8 x 10 crop for all of them, possibly as a batch process with individual tweaking (realigning)as needed. Other corrections are done and then they are exported as whatever.

I find that I didn't need to take the time to flatten all the images, mess with my glass holder, etc. because once they are cropped, you can't tell the shape of the original. Most old photos have lots of room for cropping and it actually makes them better. I suspect yours may be closer to what you want from the beginning. Anyway, the workflow is very fast that way and accomplishes all I wanted to do.

May 5, 2009 7:10 PM in response to William Straube

William,

This is a decision that only Neil can make about his particular images. As I understood him, the images would look a slight bit like shooting up the side of a tall building, but not as dramatic.

Therefore I understood his desire to be to skew the perspective to look like it would have been had the camera lens and image being photographed were perfectly parallel.

In the example of shooting up the side of a tall building, Crop in Perspective is designed to make it appear the camera had been elevated to be equidistant from both the top and bottom of the building and no skewing of the lines of the side of the building. Cropping alone does not do this. See as one example:

http://www.myphotoshoptutorial.com/2008/06/perspective-crop/

Ernie

May 5, 2009 10:11 PM in response to William Straube

Right thanks for all of that.

The content did really need to look true and square. A lot of the content was things like old advertising papperwork, artwork etc pictured alongside other stuff. So it really needed to look square.

I too was a little uneasy about using iPhoto, not being suere quite what it was doing, so started with the first frame again and did the complete lot again in PS using Bridge to choose the images from. The longest part of the workflow was saving the images back in JPEG, because of the nag screens..."Are you sure you want to replace?" 'This Image has not been saved, save now' Created an automatic action for that task and all was plain sailing after that.

Would have loved to use Aperture, but last night was not the time to start experimenting. Will have a play again in the next few days, see if I can find this 'Crop in Perspective' you talk about Ernie. Am at 'real work ' now. Will take a peak at the link yo gave later.

Thanks again for the quick reaponses to h=this amateurs crisis 🙂

Neil

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