Canon XL1 with Final cut Pro Express and IDVD (Not very good results)

I'm working with my Canon XL1 in parties, Events, etc and editing in my new Imac 24 inch with Final Cut Express Pro. Usually I finish projects in 100 minutes length with 20 to 25 GB each. It's VERY IMPORTANT to make clear that Final cup Pro Express HD, do not includes Compressor..I don't have it..The mean point is : I need to make DVDS of 4.2 GB with files of 25 GB and show that in T.V screens of 52 /70 inch with HD 1080 with crystal clear quality. When I show the tape in the 52 inch from XL1 looks gorgeous, but in the DVD looks kind of blurry. I'm sure there is a method to burn a proper DVD. If Disney or any other Movie company can download movies that weighs hundreds of GB in one DVD of 4.2 GB for commercial use and have crystal clear quality, must be a method to have great results with 4.2 GB DVDS. If someone knows the proper settings (step by step) in FCP EXPRESS Pro HD to export MiniDV tapes from XL1 or similar to 25 GB files and burn it in IDVD with Crystal clear results in a 52 inch plasma HD 1080, I will be very happy to read it.
Thanks for your answers.
Best Regards.

Imac 24 inch, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on May 12, 2009 11:34 AM

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May 12, 2009 11:50 AM in response to Nippur

Hi(Bonjour)!

iDVD burn only Standard def DVD, that's why your movie is not +on par+ with your HD TV set.

You can't expect crystal result when you monitor Standard def content on HD TV set, as SD is upscaled to fit your screen.

Disney's, and all majors, works with prime quality HD content (with a 4K res), color corrected, multi-thousands dollars hardware and software for compression and professional people. Tha's why their movies look so good on DVDs.

Try your DVD on standard def monitor, I'm pretty sure that you'll be happy with the results.

Michel Boissonneault

May 12, 2009 12:12 PM in response to Michel Boissonneault

Thanks for your intervention Michel (Merci beaucoup), but what I need is someone who knows the settings to have better results from XL1 with files 25 GB (100 minutes) To FCP Express Pro and IDVD combined to use in 52 inch 1080 T.V . I don't want to change the monitor. I want better results with what I have: Canon XL1, 25 GB project made in FCP Express Pro HD and IDVD, and what I need (and have to show the products) a 52 inch HD 1080 to show my videos..
Best Regards.

May 12, 2009 3:30 PM in response to Nippur

Just export to a normal Quicktime Movie (File > Export > Quicktime Movie) and uncheck the +Make Movie Self Contained+ box. iDVD will handle the compression to make it fit on your DVD no matter what the size. It shouldn't look that much worse than the Quicktime Movie. As Michel said, any worse results you might get are probably due to burning onto SD DVDs. iDVD can not burn onto HD DVDs.

May 12, 2009 4:00 PM in response to skalicki

The Canon XL1 is an excellent camcorder, but it is SD - miniDV camcorder. One cannot get HD out of it. After burning standard or DL-DVD (depending on length of the video) in iDVD, the quality will be as good as can be done on SD. It should not look all that bad on HDTV. The TV will do the best it can with the scaling and filtering of the SD material, and should not look really all that bad, with the exception of having less detail, than can be achieved by HD source.

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May 13, 2009 8:24 AM in response to skalicki

Lately I was doing a lot of videos for internet using export :H.264 and filters sharp 2 levels with enhance of 20% saturation, with progressive scan, that gets brighter and vivid colors and much clear quality for web users ( I didn't invented the settings. I followed the recommendation of an expert). But is for the web, not for T.V 52 inch HD 1080. Since I'm always finish projects for customers with 100 minutes length (results in 25 GB full Quicktime) makes no sense to make full quicktime, because you end burning 25 GB in 4.2 GB Standard IDVD. I wonder if someone here Burned a 100 minutes project (kind of 25 GB in full quicktime) in: H.264 with sharp filters and color correction with some color saturation, burn in IDVD with a lot less weight but sharper image and watch the results in a big HD T.V..If someone did it, I would like to read his opinion..
Best Regards.

May 13, 2009 11:01 AM in response to Nippur

You say that the quality is good, directly from the camcorder to the TV (what type of interface are you using in that connection?). You are editing with FCE(4?) and burning in iDVD. 1 - when you are importing the stream into FCE, make sure that the camcorder setting matches the FCE setting. As anexperiment, try not to do much editing and output via File>Export>QuickTime Movie, as suggested previously. Burn an iDVD disc. If you still have quality problem, try Toast. these iMovie and iDVD programs are not for very discriminating users. Don't bother with the menus and other bells&whistles at first. Make sure you have a good DVD player and good connection to your TV, preferrably HDMI. Try not to do upconversion in the DVD player, let the TV do it. It knows the diplay technology it drives and will do better job upconverting and filtering the image than the DVD player, that does "general" upconversion.

2-iDVD will not burn h.264 and the DVD player will not play such stream. DVD player only plays MPEG-2 Program stream.

3 - I used to have that camcorder and didn't have quality issues burning DVD's with it. I mostly use Toast though. If you still have issues, you'd have to publish all the settings you are using for the camcorder, FCE and DVD authoring S/W to troubleshoot this furhter.

4 - Does your DVD player usually give you the video quality you would like to see?

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